polish people: did you struggle learning english

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Apr 19, 10, 23:57 #1
It was a lot harder than your native language?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Apr 19, 10, 23:58 #2
eng: It was a lot harder than your native language? LOL You do realise the difference right?

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:05 #3
SeanBM: You do realise the difference right? your alphebet is in latin like most european languages which makes it easy

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:07 #4
eng: your alphebet is in latin like most european languages which makes it easy Correct and what alphabet does Polish use? (augmented by the use of diacritical marks)

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:08 #5
eng: your alphebet is in latin like most european languages which makes it easy alphabet... you might wanna try Finnish then... or Hungarian... they use Latin too. :)

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Edited by: eng Apr 20, 10, 00:13 #6
Sasha: alphabet... you might wanna try Finnish then... or Hungarian... they use Latin too. you're wrong, 95% of finnish language is slang language + english is a lot harder than polish -coming from an english national

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Edited by: SeanBM Apr 20, 10, 00:14 #7

eng:

english is a lot harder than polish -coming from an english national

That doesn't make any sense, how could English be harder than Polish for an English national?

eng:

you're wrong, 95% of finnish language is slang language

The Finnish alphabet is based on the Latin alphabet, and especially its Swedish extension. Officially it comprises 28 letters:

A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, X, Y, Z, Å, Ä, Ö

Wiki

Eng, see the letters above the box you type in to, they are the 'other' letters used in the Polish alphabet. ĄĆĘŁŃÓŚŹŻ.

I think you are thinking of Cyrillic which Polish never used.

Sasha, I could google it but while we are on the subject, why is it that Russia uses Cyrillic and Poland doesn't?
I'd guess that it has something to do with the Roman empire?

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:16 #8
SeanBM: Eng, see the letters above the box you type in to, they are the 'other' letters used in the Polish alphabet. ĄĆĘŁŃÓŚŹŻ. They are just Latin letters in capitols, polish does not have it's own special alphabet like english, it's 100% latin

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:18 #9
eng: polish does not have it's own special alphabet like english, You are not making much sense. English and Polish use the Roman alphabet or the Latin one, same thing I think.

TITThreads: 9 Posts: 353 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Edited by: TIT Apr 20, 10, 00:20 #10
eng: polish does not have it's own special alphabet like engl and you have english letters just like germans have 'ß' yes? youre a moron The modern English alphabet is a Latin-based alphabet consisting of 26 letters[1] – the same letters that are found in the Basic modern Latin alphabet from wiki

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:22 #11
Here is an example of the Polish alhabet: Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła, Kiedy my żyjemy. Co nam obca przemoc wzięła, Szablą odbierzemy. Marsz, marsz Dąbrowski, Z ziemi włoskiej do Polski. Za twoim przewodem Złączym się z narodem. As you can see the alphabet is the same.

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:22 #12
SeanBM: English and Polish use the Roman alphabet or the Latin one, same thing I think. but your trying to imply that polish has it's own alphabet yet you said it's latin, which it is.. english is a lot harder believe me, it's my native language

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Edited by: SeanBM Apr 20, 10, 00:28 #13

eng:

but your trying to imply that polish has it's own alphabet yet you said it's latin, which it is..

Polish does not have it's own alphabet, Polish uses the Latin alphabet, it does however have diacritical marks that are not used in English. Those little squiggles that I was trying to show you on the letters gives a different pronunciation ĄĆĘŁŃÓŚŹŻ

eng:

english is a lot harder believe me, it's my native language

How do you know if it is harder, you don't speak Polish.
And I find it impossible to believe you find Polish, as a foreign language, easier than English, if it is your native one.

Also language is not just about alphabet, there is grammar, pronunciation etc...

Guest:

Guest

Eeeeeemmmm wrong forum...

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Edited by: TIT Apr 20, 10, 00:32 #14

SeanBM:

eng:
but your trying to imply that polish has it's own alphabet yet you said it's latin, which it is..
Polish does not have it's own, Polish uses the Latin alphabet, it does however have diacritical marks that are not used in English.

eng:
english is a lot harder believe me, it's my native language
How do you know if it is harder, you don't speak Polish.
And I find it impossible to believe you find Polish, as a foreign language, easier than English, if it is your native one.

Also language is not just about alphabet, there is grammar, pronunciation etc...

do you underestand Sean why people can't stand simple ordinary folks? because they are ignorant and stupid

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:33 #15
eng: english is a lot harder than polish what are you on bud? english is easy in comparison to polish

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:35 #16
SeanBM: Also language is not just about alphabet, there is grammar, pronunciation etc... not with polish, polish writing has no commas/full stops (english only has that), it's a lot like spanish in that respect - it looks simple.. and I would also like to point out, the language sounds feminine

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Edited by: SeanBM Apr 20, 10, 00:37 #17

TIT:

do you underestand Sean why people can't stand simple ordinary people? because they are ignorant and stupid

I don't believe that.
To be ignorant you have to know something and ignore it and this young man clearly doesn't know and is finding out and after finding out he will know and be neither stupid nor ignorant.
For we are all stupid with some things, the clever ones try to find out.

plk123:

english is easy in comparison to polish

And you are Polish, which says something.

But come on, our native language, the one we grew up with, is easier than one we learn especially later on in life.

eng:

not with polish, polish writing has no commas/full stops (english only has that), it's a lot like spanish in that respect

Ok now your taking the mickey.

Can you see any fullstops and commas in this example?

Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła,
Kiedy my żyjemy.
Co nam obca przemoc wzięła,
Szablą odbierzemy.

Marsz, marsz Dąbrowski,
Z ziemi włoskiej do Polski.
Za twoim przewodem
Złączym się z narodem.

I could never be a teacher, I would be grand the first 5 minutes but then....

TITThreads: 9 Posts: 353 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:38 #18
eng: not with polish, polish writing has no commas/full stops (english only has that), you have a prime example here Sean

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:39 #19
plk123: what are you on bud? english is easy in comparison to polish english has more words, words that have multiple definitions, polish doesnt have that, it has already been proven english is the 2nd hardest language to learn

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Edited by: SeanBM Apr 20, 10, 00:40 #20

eng:

english has more words

That is probably true.

eng:

words that have multiple definitions, polish doesnt have that, it has already been proven english is the 2nd hardest language to learn

But the rest there is definitely false.
All languages have words with multiple definitions.
English is one of the easiest languages to learn as a second language, although I wouldn't know it's ranking.

How old are you eng?

TIT:

you have a prime example here Sean

A come on, eng is hardly an adult...I think he is just a pee taker at this stage.

engThreads: 1 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 15, 10 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:52 #21
SeanBM: A come on, eng is hardly an adult... I think he is just a pee taker at this stage. I'm here to promote english as polish is a dying language, plus you make a lot of grammer mistakes. I know my native language better than you so don't tell me otherwise

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Apr 20, 10, 00:55 #22

eng:

I'm here to promote english

By saying English is harder than Polish?
You might want to revise your tact.

eng:

polish is a dying language

I think it is catching on very well, many people in your country speak it ;)

eng:

plus you make a lot of grammer mistakes.

In which language?
Point out a few :)

eng:

I know my native language better than you so don't tell me otherwise

Sure, I didn't mean to offend you by saying you are young and are taking the pee because you are and that's ok too.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:57 #23
eng: lot of grammer mistakes I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree, but isn't it grammatical mistakes? Or mistakes in grammar? Am I too drunk to catch some sort of sarcasm here? grammer = epic fail

RubasznyRumcajsThreads: 9 Posts: 283 Joined: Mar 29, 08 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 00:58 #24
eng: polish is a dying language can you provide me information about it? or did you just made it up? and no- i couldn't agree with statement, that 'English has more words'. Wordcreating in Polish is really nice, you can add 'od-' 'do-' 'na-' and other suffixes, that change the meaning of word (and no, latin suffixes aren't as 'creative')

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 01:02 #25
RubasznyRumcajs: can you provide me information about it? or did you just made it up? The number of Poles is on the decline, and Polish isn't exactly a popular language to learn.

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Apr 20, 10, 01:07 #26

RubasznyRumcajs:

and no- i couldn't agree with statement, that 'English has more words'. Wordcreating in Polish is really nice, you can add 'od-' 'do-' 'na-' and other suffixes, that change the meaning of word (and no, latin suffixes aren't as 'creative')

those polish words you create are illegal/unofficial, unlike the english words which are regulated and approved

SeanBM:

By saying English is harder than Polish?
You might want to revise your tact.

It's a lot harder as it's got more words/a bigger alphabet, etc...

SeanBM:

I think it is catching on very well, many people in your country speak it ;)

It's a pity

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Apr 20, 10, 01:12 #27

Just want to say to my brothers of Poland that I was shocked by the death of your President and his wife. That ALL the talented people who were of the government there, or associated in some way, were killed. It is an incedent that is is distant from me, but still touches the nerves that my hertitage gave me. God bless Poland. I know that you WILL go on despite another shot of devistation in your history.

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Apr 20, 10, 01:13 #28

eng:

those polish words you create are illegal/unofficial, unlike the english words which are regulated and approved

1.
(..)As there is no regulatory body for the English language, there is some disagreement about correct usage, though there is enough agreement that the written form of English is relatively transcendent of dialectal variation. In addition to being used in written media such as books and newspapers, it is also the basis of Signed English.(..)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_written_English

2. what means 'illegal word'?
3. language isn't a possession of some arbitrary chosen Committees, its a live thing. if i create word that can be understood by others- than this word is 'ok'.

eng:

It's a lot harder as it's got more words/a bigger alphabet, etc...

ekhm, English has a bigger alphabet? it's just a nonsense

Arg_Threads: 2 Posts: 44 Joined: Apr 14, 10 ♂	Edited by: Arg_ Apr 20, 10, 01:57 #29
Im argentinian, and english is a lot easyer than polish motherf*ckers !

dtaylor5632Threads: 49 Posts: 4,459 Joined: May 2, 09 ♂	Apr 20, 10, 02:00 #30
Arg_: Im argentinian, and english is a lot easyer than polish motherf*ckers ! Yeah but also it means there is a good chance you use a dildo made from beef....

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