Student Visa NON-EU Student (an entry-visa for a Nigerian citizen)

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Apr 20, 10, 15:35 #1

I am a Bsc Student (IT) and I have stayed in Poland for more than a year, until I had to travel home for an urgent family matter. As in the meantime, my residence card has expired, I now have to re-apply for an entry-visa into Poland at the Polish embassy in my country (Nigeria), where I first got the visa two years ago. Unfortunately, I face HUGE problems with the submission of my file at the embassy.
They denied the submission of the application to the consul for further treatment without giving me any details why they would NOT submit it further on (e.g. might be documents needed,but not in the file etc). At the counter, I did not get any appropriate information, my phone calls would remain unanswered or cut in a very random way, (two times, they even hung off on me what I think is so rude) and several e-mails were ignored, too. Anyway. I am devastated as my classes begun almost 2 months ago and I would really want to go back to school as soon as possible. My application file contains ALL the documents mentioned on the Embassy's web site. I am also holding an e-mail confirmation from the Voivod office in Warsaw, stating that I was holding a temporary residence card (incl. the ref. number and all the relevant details...). Today, finally, the consul in charge would reply on my e-mail inquiry, saying that my secondary school certificate does not qualify me to study as it does not contain english language subject. This, though, is NOT true, as English is the official language of tuition in my country, and OF COURSE, I have also passed English language courses and these are clearly stated on my index.

Please, anybody, could you give me a hint on what or where I could try to get further information on what I am doing wrong? WHAT CAN I DO TO GET THIS HAPPEN? I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO SCHOOL!!! I simply DO NOT GET IT! :-(

Thanks in advance, Lou

PS: I am a Nigerian citizen

segan	Apr 20, 10, 15:46 #2
cant your school send u a document indicating that u still a student there? what school are u studing? is is clark university? why did u travel when your resident card has expired irrespective of any situation? you should have re-new it before travelling..I am sorry u will be considered as a fresh visa applicant..Polish embassy is a pain in an ass..BEST of luck

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Apr 21, 10, 13:23 #3

Hi Segan, Thanks a million for your reply....
I got all these documents, for real, I mean I got an attendance letter,stating that I am still a student, I ve got the letter of enrollment for the next sessions with receipt confirmation of paid tuition fees, I ve got the written confirmation of the voivod office, I also hold the written confirmation of the school, them holding my WAEC (legalized by the embassy...), it literally IS very very difficult...I know that it is my mistake that I did not travel back to PL within the validity of my card, and I am even cool with beeing considered as a fresh applicant, as long as they at least consider me as an applicant...But I do not even get that far, I just get told "nah, you cant submit the application . " no why, no what else needed, nothing.... This is really crazy!!! I really really dont get it why I could not submit the application!!! anyway, thx for the reply...

ps: no, it aint clark...

segan	Apr 21, 10, 15:32 #4
what was your scores in WAEC? What did u have a C or A or what?

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Apr 21, 10, 15:43 #5
Lou: I know that it is my mistake that I did not travel back to PL within the validity of my card This will obviously prove to be a point of contention with the authorities. segan: what was your scores in WAEC? This may prove to be less so.

LouThreads: 1 Posts: 7 Joined: Apr 20, 10 ♀	Apr 23, 10, 11:48 #6
richasis: Lou: I know that it is my mistake that I did not travel back to PL within the validity of my card This will obviously prove to be a point of contention with the authorities. I agree, but this is not a big problem. In the meantime, I have received a feedback from the embassy, sayin that i could go there again, applying... :-)

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Apr 23, 10, 13:40 #7
Good to hear, Lou. Good Luck!

LouThreads: 1 Posts: 7 Joined: Apr 20, 10 ♀	Apr 26, 10, 09:23 #8
cheers :-)

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Apr 26, 10, 11:49 #9

filthy harold:

many europeans consider poles to be 3rd world immigrants

Its more like second world with ambition to be "first world" in 25-30 years :D

I still dont understand why ppl choose polish schools, there is more to learn (of useless things) and not like on the west they will greet you with open arms with our certificate (maybe from few of our schools they will tho) not to mention Polski język jest raczej trudny and not many ppl know english yet :D
But im honored you want to learn here and i wish you luck :D

PLATThreads: 1 Posts: 31 Joined: Jun 7, 08 ♂	Apr 26, 10, 13:01 #10
Drac90: Its more like second world with ambition to be "first world" in 25-30 years :D that all ******** first world/third world. ie. Spain was not considered First world during Franco....

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Apr 27, 10, 07:52 #11

Drac90:

I still dont understand why ppl choose polish schools, there is more to learn (of useless things) and not like on the west they will greet you with open arms with our certificate (maybe from few of our schools they will tho) not to mention Polski język jest raczej trudny and not many ppl know english yet :D
But im honored you want to learn here and i wish you luck :D

well, when it comes to COSTS-REWARDS Balance, within Europe, Poland goes first! and a bachelor is a bachelor that allows you to go for a master anywhere else, rite? its a good start...it all depends on your efforts.... :-)

havefunwith2005Threads: - Posts: 4 Joined: Mar 26, 10 ♂	Apr 27, 10, 14:32 #12
Lou: In the meantime, I have received a feedback from the embassy, sayin that i could go there again, applying... :-) Hi! how is it going? am Nigerian also..Wish you all the best....In case of next time, i do hope you have learnt your lesson...They are messed up at the embassy and you want to make sure they don't push you around...Cheers

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Apr 28, 10, 15:05 #13

havefunwith2005:

Hi! how is it going? am Nigerian also..Wish you all the best....In case of next time, i do hope you have learnt your lesson...They are messed up at the embassy and you want to make sure they don't push you around...Cheers

hi, i am fine, how are you? yeah, that lesson is learnt for sure...no more examples needed,.... the "pushin around" is experienced, too, for real.... but i am still positive, some more effort and i hope it s all good.... cheers....

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Edited by: jarnowa Apr 28, 10, 15:45 #14

havefunwith2005:

am Nigerian also.

2 questions:

1. How can someone from Nigeria afford to live in Poland on a student visa (= not working) for one year? I'm sceptical because Nigeria is a poor country and in Western Europe Nigerians are associated with internet scams (selling fake viagra pills, etc).

2. Why not study in your own country or another African country?
If you can afford to study in Poland, you can easily afford to live in your own country.

I hope this time mods won't remove my questions just because i'm against 3rd world immigration to Europe.

Miguel ColombiaThreads: 3 Posts: 711 Joined: Apr 20, 10 ♂	Apr 28, 10, 15:50 #15
jarnowa: I'm sceptical because Nigeria is a poor country and in Western Europe Nigerians are associated with internet scams (selling fake viagra pills, etc). And marriage scams so he probably married a Polish girl that helps him with his fees.

jarnowaThreads: 5 Posts: 801 Joined: Nov 21, 09 ♂	Apr 28, 10, 17:10 #16
Miguel Colombia: And marriage scams so he probably married a Polish girl that helps him with his fees. probably yes. i guess they will either say that it's not our business where the money comes from, or that their father is a rich business man from Lagos.

Miguel ColombiaThreads: 3 Posts: 711 Joined: Apr 20, 10 ♂	Apr 28, 10, 17:45 #17
jarnowa: i'm against 3rd world immigration to Europe. How about being against mass immigration of useless 3rd worlders?

nunczkaThreads: 17 Posts: 624 Joined: Sep 13, 08 ♂	Apr 28, 10, 18:26 #18
Miguel Colombia: How about being against mass immigration of useless 3rd worlders? NOW! That makes a lot of sense.

jarnowaThreads: 5 Posts: 801 Joined: Nov 21, 09 ♂	Apr 28, 10, 19:22 #19
Miguel Colombia: How about being against mass immigration of useless 3rd worlders? really, there is no such thing as a usefull 3rd worlder. i could explain but it will be removed because it's offtopic. ;)

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Apr 28, 10, 19:34 #20

jarnowa:

really, there is no such thing as a usefull 3rd worlder. i could explain but it will be removed because it's offtopic. ;)

Yes, its called chain migration. One third worlder comes over on a work visa/student visa/whatever. Within a decade, half his village is over with him, guzzling on the welfare gravy train thanks to the EU family re-unification directives.

Then old Adoybe gets cracking on his cousins village.

jarnowaThreads: 5 Posts: 801 Joined: Nov 21, 09 ♂	Apr 28, 10, 19:47 #21
RevolkeNice, i wish to react on your post, but i'm sure mods will remove our discussion, because they are hyperactive lately. ;)

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Apr 28, 10, 20:02 #22

RevokeNice:

Yes, its called chain migration. One third worlder comes over on a work visa/student visa/whatever. Within a decade, half his village is over with him, guzzling on the welfare gravy train thanks to the EU family re-unification directives.

Then call me an exception, for I wouldn´t want half of my village (it´s a city, actually ) around me. The main reason I am in Europe is because I don´t like people down there (south America, if you hadn´t noticed) so it would be counterproductive to have a bunch of Colombians around me.

I know what you mean. I have seen it and I don´t appease it. I think it´s hideous, cheap and shouldn´t be tolerated, but hell, I am one of the few that thinks like that.

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Apr 28, 10, 21:43 #23

Miguel Colombia:

I know what you mean. I have seen it and I don´t appease it. I think it´s hideous, cheap and shouldn´t be tolerated, but hell, I am one of the few that thinks like that.

I dont have an issue with the south americans. Most are of european descent. Similar to the Americans, Candians, Australians and New Zealanders.

By third world, I mean arab and african countries. Not the chinese, new world countries and south americans, whom cause little or no problems and integrate quite well.

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Edited by: Lou Apr 29, 10, 08:00 #24

jarnowa:

2 questions:

1. How can someone from Nigeria afford to live in Poland on a student visa (= not working) for one year? I'm sceptical because Nigeria is a poor country and in Western Europe Nigerians are associated with internet scams (selling fake viagra pills, etc).

2. Why not study in your own country or another African country?
If you can afford to study in Poland, you can easily afford to live in your own country.

I hope this time mods won't remove my questions just because i'm against 3rd world immigration to Europe

well, 2 answers:

1. in western europe, Poles are associated with either strawberry fields or car theft... and cheap cigarettes of course... cheap, illegal cigarettes....

2. intelligent people strive for the best and yeah, you are right, I can afford to study in europe, why shouldnt I then? Make the cash flow, economics ok? ...but as far as I get, you dont have a clue of economics.... let me have a guess: strawberry fields?

It is very easy to summarize without thinking, you are the proof, once again...

Miguel Colombia:

And marriage scams so he probably married a Polish girl that helps him with his fees.

uuuuh, senor de colombia tambien... I mean all the Nigerians scam-marry, for real, and all the colombians are into coca...rite? I mean thats what your world looks like...I gotcha... when we talk bout the quota of illegal immigrants from southern america in spain, we are back to the strawberry fields...uuuh... it all makes sense... doesnt it?

RevokeNice:

Miguel Colombia:
I know what you mean. I have seen it and I don´t appease it. I think it´s hideous, cheap and shouldn´t be tolerated, but hell, I am one of the few that thinks like that.

I dont have an issue with the south americans. Most are of european descent. Similar to the Americans, Candians, Australians and New Zealanders.

By third world, I mean arab and african countries. Not the chinese, new world countries and south americans, whom cause little or no problems and integrate quite well.

basically, might be your club is called somethin like WP? ooooh... scary.... strawberry fields, as I say....

have a great day ya'all, in your place called "limited-world"!

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Apr 29, 10, 10:14 #25

Lou:

and all the colombians are into coca...

Colombians are not into drugs. There are some who sell it to Americans and/or Europeans that are into it.
I am sorry, but a Polish immigrant is more welcome than a Nigerian one. At least they try to be legal and WORK.

Lou:

, might be your club is called somethin like WP

What does "WP" stand for? And by the way, it is kind of strange that an university student sounds as mature and sharp as a kindergarten kid.

It really doesn´t surprise me, coming from an African.

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Apr 29, 10, 10:26 #26
Lou: illegal immigrants from southern america in spain, I am spaniard and i would rather have 1000 south americans in my city than 1 single nigerian scammer. sorry but thats the way it is.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Apr 29, 10, 11:22 #27
Would the poster who is using two different log-ins please keep to one or the other, thank you.

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Edited by: Lou Apr 29, 10, 14:14 #28

Miguel Colombia:

Colombians are not into drugs. There are some who sell it to Americans and/or Europeans that are into it.
I am sorry, but a Polish immigrant is more welcome than a Nigerian one. At least they try to be legal and WORK.

Yeah, see, Miguel, and this is exactly the P.O.I.N.T! And at the end of the day, that's what I've tried to say in a provocative way...

--> Neither all Colombians are into drugs, nor all Nigerians are into scam, 419 etc....

If ever your country's kindergarten kids are able to express themselves in that way, chapeau! c'est donc le pays des merveilles?

btw, WP stands for white power.

espana:

I am spaniard and i would rather have 1000 south americans in my city than 1 single nigerian scammer. sorry but thats the way it is.

question: who actually WANTS scammers anyway? Neither YOU nor WE do.... Do you think Festac Lagos is P.R.O.U.D of those jerks? nah, nah... for sure no... and hey, don't pretend to be sorry for somethin' that you ain't! there is no need for that....

Drac90Threads: 2 Posts: 120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Apr 29, 10, 14:44 #29
Lou, hows living in Poland for foreigner look like, I dont know any foreigner coz i live in small town that have about 80k ppl ^^ Im not racist and i do really want to have some foreigner friend just to know other culture. Yet i wonder if other poles are tolerant or living among us is pain in ass ^^

Miguel ColombiaThreads: 3 Posts: 711 Joined: Apr 20, 10 ♂	Apr 29, 10, 16:09 #30
Lou: If ever your country's kindergarten kids are able to express themselves in that way, chapeau! c'est donc le pays des merveilles? btw, WP stands for white power. You can spare your tattles in French...gay language. Oh yes, as if WP were any worse than BP.

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