Teaching architecture in Polish University. Can i survive with my family?

johnfisherThreads: 5 Posts: 22 Joined: Feb 12, 11 ♂	Mar 19, 11, 17:55 #1
Dear all, is it possible to survive in Poland (decent life) as a university teacher? i hear that teaching there is more of a hobby and must be complemented with something else. If so, then being an academic in Poland doesn t bring financial security for the academic's family? is there a way to pursue an academic career in Poland? (NB: teaching architecture and design)

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08 ♂	Mar 19, 11, 17:59 #2
johnfisher: (NB: teaching architecture and design) Which university?

johnfisherThreads: 5 Posts: 22 Joined: Feb 12, 11 ♂	Mar 19, 11, 18:10 #3
Sure i do prefer somewhere in warsaw or krakow, but i did not hear that there are differences when it comes to teaching, as all give peanuts as salary...does it make difference which uni it is ??? are there better paying universities vs bad paying universities???

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Mar 19, 11, 21:52 #4

The main salary is quite decent if you are a professor (I think around 6000 PLN). Otherwise it is quite low (around 3000 PLN before taxes for a fresh PhD graduate)... But of course you must get grants to do your research (if you work at the university you can not just teach - you have to do some research, publish etc. and the direct funding of research by the university is usually very low) and it is a custom that participants of the grant get some money from in form of additional salary (but of course getting a grant is no so simple...)...

Regards

Lukasz

johnfisherThreads: 5 Posts: 22 Joined: Feb 12, 11 ♂	Mar 19, 11, 22:11 #5
Dear Lukasz,thanks for your feed. I have a PhD with 2 years experience, so i wonder where i stand for Polish standard. The salaries you mentionned as example are in public institutions or private ones?

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,654 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Mar 19, 11, 22:24 #6
My guess is that you will be more than comfortable, not wealthy, but very comfortable. upper/middle.

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Mar 19, 11, 22:33 #7

I am talking about a public university. Private ones are rather called "schools" (I think non of the private institutions can use the name "university" because to do it you need to have enough professors, PhD students etc. and private schools are much smaller and more oriented on bachelor and master studies than public ones ) which does not mean that you can not earn there more if your field attracts many students...

Regards

Lukasz

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Mar 19, 11, 22:49 #8

But what about the field of architecture in the academia? does what have been said by all of you apply to architectural teaching? or it is a general rule? and what about if i am a non-polish speaker? actually i don t speak polish yet, i married recently and i am planing to move for good to poland and learn the languagem and settle there, so knowing about the financial security that i can get through teaching is very important for me.Any idea?

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Edited by: delphiandomine Mar 20, 11, 03:09 #9

johnfisher:

Any idea?

Forget about it if you want financial security. I cannot see a non-Polish speaker making enough money in the universities in order to provide financial security in Poland - I know several English speaking non-proessors, and none of them are earning enough to live without doing something else on the side.

I'm also not too convinced that there will be much demand for a non-Polish speaking architect in universities - the public universities will expect research from you, and the private ones are anything but stable.

You'd be best to try and get a job in an architecture company - Poland isn't like other countries, where a PhD automatically is seen as "over-qualfiied".

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Mar 20, 11, 13:56 #10

i'd say with a Phd and only 2 years working experience you might struggle to find any University position here. Where's your Phd from and in what country have you previously worked? From my limited knowledge most of the professors here seem to be Polish. You might strike it lucky and a University might want to hire you as there are a number of the courses taught in English.

But i'd prob agree with Delph you might find it hard to get by, and would also suggest that you try get work with a Polish company first prior to even thinking about teaching.

I'm currently going through the nostrification process to get my degrees recognised as equivalent in Poland (my degrees were obtained in Australia) still waiting to hear back from Krakow University as to what exactly i need to submit.

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