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Dommie B.  Aug 6, 11, 23:16    #31
ARE YOU LISTENING?.......GET YOUR DEGREE!


Don't be a fool! Stay in school!
JonnyMThreads: 16
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Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂ 		 Aug 6, 11, 23:16    #32
There you go Jcarrett! ARE YOU LISTENING?.......GET YOUR DEGREE!

Yes. Then the world will be your oyster. If you don't get it you will regret it later at a point in your life when you have far fewer choices and far harder decisions.
Dommie B.  Aug 6, 11, 23:32    #33
If you can't start up again at EMU this semester, spend the year working in the States to earn enough money to start up again next year. Work overtime or two jobs, and get a weekend job as well. You're not going to earn anything in Poland, just dig yourself deeper into a hole you won't be able to crawl out of. If you can't live without her, why don't you bring GF to the States so she can earn and go to a real school, too? She's wasting her time at WSF if she wants to be a teacher. Like someone else said, she's basically deferring unemployment for the time being.
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Joined: Jan 16, 11  Pictures: 4 ♂ 		 Aug 7, 11, 00:03    #34
As I was feeding my dogs I thought of you Jcarrett. Not so much you but of your GF and her family. How could they be ok with you dropping your studies like that and entering into this vulnerable realtionship in Wroclaw....As a father of two, one of whom is nearing college-age I have to say this (and then I'll shut up for good): Wake up kid! They don't have your best interests at heart. How could they. Just stop and think about what you are being asked to do. From where I sit it stinks. I can't beleive I'm getting upset over this. Anyway, just finish your studies (i'm betting you're not Jewish or Asian). What a waste!....I'm done
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Joined: Aug 8, 11 ♂ 		 Aug 8, 11, 10:44    #35
As I mentioned to you on Facebook Jeremy, the only way it seems you will know what is reality is by trying it yourself. However, if you were a wise man you would listen to the advice everyone has given you and take some time to really think about what YOU want. Don't think about your GF or her parents, but think about where you want your life to go, where do you want to be in 10 years time?

Wroclaw is a hard city to get started in especially if you don't have a teaching qualification. In fact, native speakers have a bad name here in Wroclaw as many have come and gone and caused all sorts of problems for those of us who want to stay and build something here. I personally have had problems with employing native speakers and now don't as it's simply too much hassle - and I am a native speaker!!

I don't agree with the rhetoric about WSF, as in Poland you simply need a piece of paper to prove that you can do what you say you can do. They are rarely checked and rarely even considered.

My advice: take some time to think about your future and where you want to go in your life. Education is the key to life, sadly. So really take some time to see if you could possibly finish your studies in the US in some way and then move to Wroclaw. Don't miss an opportunity to fulfil your career dream for a quick easy fix solution is all I am saying.

Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

p.s. If you want to get to know some foreigners if you do arrive in Wroclaw, come along to the International Friends of Wroclaw http://www.facebook.com/pages/International-Friends-of-Wroclaw-IFW/168 197799862135 on a wednesday morning from 10.30am - 12.30. It's a social club more than anything else.
Dommie B.  Aug 8, 11, 11:01    #36
International Friends of Wroclaw


I'd like to meet you guys. Where do you meet? I don't use facebook.

Also, I run an English conversation group every Thursday from 18:00 to 21:00. During the summer, we meet at pręgierz. Basically, I put the participants in pairs and they go off to have a conversation for 45 minutes, after which they come back and get a new partner. Everyone's invited, as long as they can carry on a conversation in English.
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Joined: Aug 8, 11 ♂ 		 Aug 8, 11, 11:07    #37
I'd like to meet you guys. Where do you meet? I don't use facebook.

Also, I run an English conversation group every Thursday from 18:00 to 21:00. During the summer, we meet at pręgierz. Basically, I put the participants in pairs and they go off to have a conversation for 45 minutes, after which they come back and get a new partner. Everyone's invited, as long as they can carry on a conversation in English.


We have a place at 44a pilsudskiego street. But the entrance is via Plac Generała Tadeusza Kościuszki. If you would like to meet other foreigners it's a great place to come visit.
Dommie B.  Aug 8, 11, 11:14    #38
Thanks. I'll be there on Wednesday.
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Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂ 		 Aug 8, 11, 11:26    #39
Dommie B. wrote:

I had a doctorate in clinical microbiology with a very strong language background, 19 years experience as a scientific translator, and 9 years experience teaching undergraduate and nursing school courses.

it always amazes me to see people this old (and accomplished) moving to Poland to teach English for a few shmeckles a day.
Dommie B.  Aug 8, 11, 11:46    #40
it always amazes me to see people this old (and accomplished) moving to Poland to teach English for a few shmeckles a day.


I teach English for fun and human contact. I translate scientific papers for a living, and it for a lot more than a few shmeckles a day, as I have no competition to speak of.
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Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Aug 8, 11, 12:58    #41
I don't agree with the rhetoric about WSF, as in Poland you simply need a piece of paper to prove that you can do what you say you can do. They are rarely checked and rarely even considered.


Well - if you ever want to do something "real" in Poland - it matters. Take Allegro - they simply won't hire anyone with a degree from anywhere but a public university, and that sort of hiring policy is common among the corporations.

(heck, I'll be recruiting another native for a permanent, long term job here in January/February - someone with a degree from a private university simply won't get a look-in)
Dommie B.  Aug 8, 11, 13:13    #42
I don't agree with the rhetoric about WSF, as in Poland you simply need a piece of paper to prove that you can do what you say you can do. They are rarely checked and rarely even considered.


Au contraire. Certificates from these private schools are just about worthless on the job market, for "real" jobs, at least. As delphiandomine said, "real" employers won't even look at them, and demand real diplomas from real universities.
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Joined: Aug 8, 09 ♂ 		Edited by: dr_rabbit  Aug 8, 11, 13:29    #43
Jcarrett, you've received a lot of flak here, and you seem like a nice guy with good intentions. Perhaps it was the way that you said you were completely unprepared etc that made people think you were unbearably naive.

I don't have much advice as I've never lived in Poland: I almost did, but then I convinced my Fiance (now wife) to come back to my home country (New Zealand) instead, so that I could finish my masters. As it turned out, we both ended up getting decent jobs (still to finish my masters!) and we are now probably going to stay here much longer we thought.

Some observations on your plan: no doubt your potential parents-in-law are great people, and will try to do a lot for you, but take what they can offer in addition to your own initiative and nous. If you're getting up early in the morning, out and about drumming up business for your English teaching, making networks and improving on your Polish, then their goodwill for you will no doubt go much further than if you mooch around waiting for your dubious university courses to start. My parents-in-law are great people too, and they have been fantastically supportive of me, and our relationship, but if you give difficulties an opportunity to manifest themselves they surely will.

No doubt you have sound reasons to put what you are doing in the USA on hold for the while: just make sure that you don't burn your bridges back there, because it might be something you want to come back to, (both of you!). I'm assuming you have already made your decision about this, though I also agree with those who backed you to complete the qualification at home before striking out on the Polish adventure.

Do everything you can NOW to have money for a rainy day: it's not undermining or doubting your relationship, and its my experience that the fact that my wife and I (individually and separately) have never felt financially stuck in some place at any time during our time together living and travelling in 3 different continents, has actually made us much more comfortable and unconditional in our commitment to eachother. Commitments to unconditional love, despite poverty, cultural clash, etc made during the bloom of romance don't stand for much when the reality of those bites: get emotionally prepared for the tests, don't think they are a symptom of everything collapsing.
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Joined: Aug 8, 11 ♂ 		 Aug 8, 11, 14:01    #44
(heck, I'll be recruiting another native for a permanent, long term job here in January/February - someone with a degree from a private university simply won't get a look-in)


I have given up hiring natives as they are too much hassle. I much prefer poles with high standards of English who are willing to work and always turn up for work when they say they will.

However, if I meet a native who has a track record in turning up when they are supposed to and know English...........then I would employ them.
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Joined: Aug 8, 11 ♂ 		 Aug 8, 11, 14:15    #45
Au contraire. Certificates from these private schools are just about worthless on the job market, for "real" jobs, at least. As delphiandomine said, "real" employers won't even look at them, and demand real diplomas from real universities.


Depends what you are studying, I would suggest.

I now know several people who have attended WSF and are in 'real' jobs earning 'real' money and all with their degree from a private university.

We must remember that whilst many of us have certain experiences here in Poland, others still have other experiences which will seem to contradict the other persons view. Is it wrong? no just different and also interesting.

Remember that only 25% of a job is based upon intelligence and the academic and the other 75% is based upon your ability to positively adapt to the world ( to paraphrase slightly HBR ). We never know, Jeremy could end up being more successful than we have been. He could be employing us in years to come - who knows?
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Joined: Aug 7, 11 ♂ 		 Aug 8, 11, 15:06    #46
Dommie B.
yeah, well, i guess im the stupid one. the problem is i already married to her before knowing what poland looks like. to be honest with you, i;ve never heard about poland until i met her and i thought poland its just like other nice western european countries i've been hearing about. yeah stupid me...:)
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Joined: Aug 8, 11 ♂ 		 Aug 8, 11, 15:16    #47
yeah, well, i guess im the stupid one. the problem is i already married to her before knowing what poland looks like. to be honest with you, i;ve never heard about poland until i met her and i thought poland its just like other nice western european countries i've been hearing about. yeah stupid me...:)


No all Polish women are bad. I have been married to one for 14 years now and she is great and I have never had the 'polish women' problem with her. She did live in the UK for almost 10 years prior to moving to Poland in 2004. So, that may have helped!

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