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Working with my Polish friends in UK


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Paul_UK
  Jan 3, 08, 06:31  #1

Hello,

I've only recently joined this MB and read with interest all the thoughts about the Polish people who have moved to the UK.

Of course with so many people moving over here in a short space of time there are bound to be some problems but overall I think it is good for UK and good for the Polish guys and girls coming over.

I've been working with a few Polish people and I find them very warm, friendly, funny and hard working. They add (not take) from the UK economy. Wait a few years and the next Richard Branson is likely to be called Pawel or Dorota!

I also like learning Polish but I can only learn fonetically (by sound). So everyday I use some fabulous Polish words (with my English sound-a-like) ;-)

Gin Dobree (hello)
Nar Raja (see you later)
Loo Bishta (do you like it)
Spal Leesha Dob Jar (did you sleep well)
Wad Nar Pergodar (good weather)
Knee Wad Nar Pergodar (bad weather)

So long as I never have to take a Polish spelling test, I'll be ok !!

Happy New Year to you all

Paul

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Babi
  Jan 3, 08, 06:52  #2

Paul_UK wrote:
I also like learning Polish but I can only learn fonetically (by sound). So everyday I use some fabulous Polish words (with my English sound-a-like) ;-)

Gin Dobree (hello) Dzień dobry = Good Morning/Afternoon (good day)
Nar Raja (see you later) Na razie


So long as I never have to take a Polish spelling test, I'll be ok !!


LoL I am the same, Welcome x


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AvJoeUK [Guest]
Edited by: AvJoeUK  Jan 3, 08, 06:56  #3

The return of zie Babi, hope you had a good xmas, newyear n' all you too Paul. Paul if you say something wrong theres a guarantee you'll know about it!

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Michal
  Jan 3, 08, 12:41  #4

Paul_UK wrote:
Of course with so many people moving over here in a short space of time there are bound to be some problems but overall I think it is good for UK and good for the Polish guys and girls coming over.

Yes, it suits the capitalists to have all these cheap labour Poles in our midst. It drives down the wage rates and this always benefits capitalism. England has traditionally survived on a low skill-low wage economy and this is fueled by the recent influx of Eastern European emigries. They have no connections with this country and therefore do not care about its long term welfare. I find them, on the whole, a two faced lot all together. Certainly not my cup of tea!

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Puzzler
  Jan 3, 08, 13:04  #5

Paul, thank you for your kind post. Ths is not a bad forum, except that you can find here lots of posts that are hateful towards us Poles. One such hate-filled Polonophobe is the type calling himself 'Michal.' This is a real psychopath - a compulsive liar and boor. Above all, he pretends to be English, whereas, in reality, he is a former communist aparatchik from Poland (but not an ethnic Pole!), who fled to England in the 1980s. A real Orwellian piggy.
:)

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telefonitika
Edited by: telefonitika  Jan 3, 08, 14:49  #6

welcome to the PF and the madness that follows :D

My attempts are just like that at speaking as one of my english friends who is also learning polish says mine seems to be more written i can do than speaking .. and he would be correct :)

Nar Raja (see you later)
Loo Bishta (do you like it)
Spal Leesha Dob Jar (did you sleep well)
Wad Nar Pergodar (good weather)
Knee Wad Nar Pergodar (bad weather)


so whats all these in the correct polish then ???ie not phonetically :D


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postie
  Jan 3, 08, 14:59  #7

Intriguing....

me and someone else (sorry... i forget who) Had a bit of a rant about Michel turning this thread into another Pole bashing session...

And both our replies have been deleted, yet Michel's post is allowed to remain.. #

**** You who ever moderated that comment out.. this site needs you to stop ****wittery like Michel and "noimmigration" .. not to delete posts where people say they are ****wits...

As i said elsewhere... but curiously can't now find, i used to like it here... but i don't come here now because of the sheer amount of hate on this site that isn't dealt with.


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RJ_cdn
  Jan 3, 08, 15:09  #8

telefonitika wrote:
Nar Raja (see you later)

telefonitika wrote:
so whats all these in the correct polish then ???ie not phonetically :D

Na razie
telefonitika wrote:
Loo Bishta (do you like it)

Lubisz to?
telefonitika wrote:
Spal Leesha Dob Jar (did you sleep well)

Spałeś dobrze?
telefonitika wrote:
Wad Nar Pergodar (good weather)

Ładna pogoda.
telefonitika wrote:
Knee Wad Nar Pergodar (bad weather)

Nieładna pogoda.

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telefonitika
  Jan 3, 08, 15:32  #9

RJ_cdn wrote:
RJ_cdn


RJ you are too kind ... :)


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Paul_UK
  Jan 3, 08, 16:21  #10

Thanks for that RJ

I now understand the Polish "Ł" sounds like English "W"

I learnt this by finding out that that Łódź is pronounced "Woodge". I've been mis-pronouncing the football team Widzew Lodz for 20 years!

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noimmigration
  Jan 3, 08, 17:21  #11

How do you say - which way to the benefits office, in polish ?

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Paul_UK
  Jan 3, 08, 17:39  #12

Dear Michal and Noimmigration,

Sorry to spoil your fun on this thread, but a couple of facts for you:

1. We work in the IT industry. My polish mates are highly skilled. The company we work for simply can't find enough people with these skills in UK.

2. IT skills + several languages = my Polish mates are well paid.

3. They pay the top rate of UK income tax, national insurance, council tax etc. Therefore a net positive effect on the UK economy.

Cheers, Paul

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noimmigration
Edited by: noimmigration  Jan 3, 08, 17:43  #13

I have no probelm with highley educated poles who move to the uk, and find work in specialist jobs. strictly because of a skills shortage in the uk.

I just hope that business's do not scour polish universities for graduates instead of british ones

I object to hundreds of thousands of unskilled workers who shuldnt be here. and even the governent doesnt think they should be hear when they apologized for estimating that 40,000 would come to britain instead of nearly one million.

some polish girl in my work is getting housing benefit, child allowance and got a council flat after she and her mates made herself homeless by trashing the privately rented flat she shared with 6 other people (it was a two bedroom flat)

hopefully though she will soon die

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PinkJewel
  Jan 3, 08, 17:48  #14

noimmigration wrote:

some polish girl in my work is getting housing benefit, child allowance and got a council flat after she and her mates made herself homeless by trashing the privately rented flat she shared with 6 other people (it was a two bedroom flat)


The majority of benefit cheats in Scotland are...Scottish. Don't try and dispute that one.

noimmigration wrote:
hopefully though she will soon die


You see, you make a post that can be OK and then you finish it with this rubbish. I guess your overall intent is to incite anger though. You must be a right laugh at the pub...


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noimmigration
Edited by: noimmigration  Jan 3, 08, 17:50  #15

PinkJewel wrote:
The majority of benefit cheats in Scotland are...Scottish. Don't try and dispute that one.



that is scotlands problem and has nothing to do with poles and immigration, it is a completely differant issue.

what does dole cheats have to do with poles claiming benefits as soon as they come into the country

poles fraud british benefit systems :

URL

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Seanus
  Jan 3, 08, 17:54  #16

Given that it is the SCOTTISH benefit system, it's quite likely that the cheats are Scottish. So what? There are opportunistic people everywhere.


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PinkJewel
  Jan 3, 08, 17:57  #17

noimmigration wrote:
that is scotlands problem and has nothing to do with poles and immigration, it is a completely differant issue.

what does dole cheats have to do with poles claiming benefits as soon as they come into the country


What now?

You said:

noimmigration wrote:
some polish girl in my work is getting housing benefit, child allowance and got a council flat


One Polish girl is only doing what thousands of Brits are doing...

BTW if it's so easy and wonderful to just claim benefits in this country, why are any Polish people working at all? Yeah, I think it's because they don't want to claim benefits, they'd rather earn their money.


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Paul_UK
  Jan 3, 08, 18:04  #18

no immigration wrote: I just hope that business's do not scour polish universities for graduates instead of british ones


What......like my company going out to Krakow to the CUT & Jagiellonian Universities to find lots more well educated, intelligent and hard working people. I'm just dissapointed I can't go on the trip. I did offer to help ;-)

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lennyd [Guest]
  Jan 3, 08, 18:51  #19

Paul_UK wrote:
good for the Polish guys and girls coming over.

u said it mate it's good for them but the brits just get poorer and poorer due to crazy immigration policies

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osiol
  Jan 3, 08, 18:58  #20

noimmigration wrote:
How do you say - which way to the benefits office, in polish ?

That request is almost too tempting.


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postie
  Jan 3, 08, 20:56  #21

Paul_UK wrote:
Dear Michal and Noimmigration,

Sorry to spoil your fun on this thread, but a couple of facts for you:

1. We work in the IT industry. My polish mates are highly skilled. The company we work for simply can't find enough people with these skills in UK.

2. IT skills + several languages = my Polish mates are well paid.

3. They pay the top rate of UK income tax, national insurance, council tax etc. Therefore a net positive effect on the UK economy.

Cheers, Paul


Sorry Paul... please excuse these absolute fuckwits, your reply is spot on btw!!!! . I did mention earlier about them.. and i did have a post deleted from this thread. But it seems like it's OK for someone like noimmigration to say someone can die, or take it off on a tangent of their own discretion, as they do with all posts, and the post stays...

This used to be a good site.

But please ignore them... i hope this once great site doesn't lose yet another person to those who take it off tangent into their racist little world.


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Paul_UK
  Jan 4, 08, 03:54  #22

URL INFO FROM NOIMMIGRATION: Of the 600,000 (Eastern European) workers who had registered in the UK over the last two years, some 16,868 had applied for some form of income support but the vast majority were turned down.

Proportionally fewer Poles have applied for income-related benefits than other Eastern European arrivals.


Noimmigration, you're contradicting your own arguments with your own information!! I read the url you attached. The data above shows that less than 3% of Eastern European immigrants are claiming benefits. Furthermore, fewer poles apply for benefits compared to other Eastern Europeans.

From this we can draw the conclusion that only circa 2% of Polish immigrants claim benefits. I'm sure if we had the data for Scotland, the percentage would be much, much higher!

So my Polish mates taxes are paying for the Scottish benefits cheats ;-)

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telefonitika
Edited by: telefonitika  Jan 4, 08, 07:08  #23

Noimmi doest understand the rules of FAMILY ALLOWANCES issued in Poland ... and i aint going to waste time explaining to the kretin the rules ....

Why he has never been banned is beyond me but hey just ignore him .. ignore all the newly created threads he she it creates dont post on them ... if he posts on a thread irrevelant comments bypass them .... he is a shameful excuse of a person!


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Michal
Edited by: Michal  Jan 5, 08, 07:58  #24

Paul_UK wrote:
. They pay the top rate of UK income tax, national insurance, council tax etc. Therefore a net positive effect on the UK economy.

Has it occurred to you, who pays the hospital bills and schooling that they receive for free? Your attitude is short term and does not look at the picture in a wide and open view. In the long term the cost to us of immigration is exactly the same, if not even more than the so called financial gain through immigration. In Poland they have to pay for everything, even medicines for children, so they know that England is a 'soft touch'. Go to Poland and ask for something for free and see their resopnce to you!

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Smyth2
  Jan 9, 08, 09:05  #25

At the end of the day the poles are giving this economy a much needed boost with a work ethic that frankly makes us brits looks incredibly lazy.

And don't get so worked up by it, all labour changes are cyclical and a majority of the poles don't intend to stay here permanently. I wouldn't want somebody telling me where i can and can't live, its everybody's basic freedom as far as im concerned.

The ignorance of some of the people on this message board is ridiculous, use some common sense and you'll see the real benefits of such a pluralised society

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noimmigration
  Jan 9, 08, 09:30  #26

what about the 6 billin pounds they took OUT of the economy this year and sent it back home to eastern europe.

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telefonitika
  Jan 9, 08, 10:54  #27

noimmigration wrote:
noimmigration


Can i do a Grzegorz on your Ass and go YAWN!!!


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osiol
  Jan 9, 08, 11:47  #28

noimmigration wrote:

Is 'wrote' the correct word?


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