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What is wrong with Poland that Poles immigrate?


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PolskaDoll
  Jul 21, 07, 13:30  #91

Quoting: Lady in red
Funny how some people need to raise their self esteem by trying to portray how well off they are.......

I've never felt the need and I don't think Polska Doll has either !!


I can't be bothered with people who try to win arguments by the size of their bank account. I never tell anyone what I earn. Only myself, my bank manager and the wages officer in my work know exactly how much it is. All anyone else needs to know is that the bills get paid!



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Michal
  Jul 21, 07, 15:08  #92

Quoting: PolskaDoll
Thankfully I live no where near you

If you actually look, you started it all and to be honest you are very childish. Your comments have nothing to do with Polish or Poland anyway.

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Jul 21, 07, 17:36  #93

I was reading some old posts the other day, ones posted a long time before I joined and you were falling out with other posters then as well Michal. It seems you do it all the time and with a lot of people. So it's not down to Polskadoll, I think. I'm not trying to argue with you Michal just stating a point. Have a look at the old threads.

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Michal
  Jul 22, 07, 04:46  #94

I think you might be right actually, I think it is something genetic!

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Michal
  Jul 22, 07, 05:15  #95

Quoting: zion
ame of the post to " what is right with Poland " can you guys please tell me that ??????

In the summer time the countryside is very nice-a little like England would have been a hundred years ago.

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polska_lala
Edited by: polska_lala  Jul 26, 07, 19:26  #96

well... lets see whats wrong with poland... nothing really...
people just migrate for maybe their own personal reasons....
maybe they have family there....
maybe they need a better job and better money...
nothing to get mad at seeing that england has better job offers for some people. otherwise... im pretty sure there are more than just polish people in england...
some polaks might just want a better shot at life...
some people go back to poland but thats because they miss their home country.


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arrrgghhh! [Guest]
  Oct 15, 07, 12:49  #97

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For God's sake! You folks are all f**ing crazy. The topic of this thread is "What is wrong with Poland that Poles immigrate?". Can't you stick to the point instead of wondering off into drivel and chit chat???

This forum is such a waste of time. I can see why I haven't visited for 6 months.
Get a life people!
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arrrgghhh! [Guest]
  Oct 15, 07, 12:52  #98

There's been just one good post in over 100 messages. Perhaps 10 are vaguely on topic. The rest is just pointless time-wasting....

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arrrgghhh! [Guest]
  Oct 15, 07, 12:57  #99

Such a shame, cos it really is a topic worth discussing properly....

Is it really just the money? Or is it something else that's driving all the Polacy to England?

Is money 100% of the answer? This is a very good question. Please discuss it.
(Pointless chit-chat you can do on a social site, please don't waste everyone's time here...)

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UKGUY
  Oct 26, 07, 18:06  #100

Looking at POland now (from a foreigner in Eastern and Central europe). It is alot better than it was in 1991 and its a fairly good country to live in. Its not "f-ucking s-hit" like one Pole told me - its wages are lower than UK of course, but all in all its better for POles to stay in POland; mainly becuse they can get better qualified jobs there now (less competition) and the cost of living is more on par with the UK (I mean relative). POles come to save some money and becuase they think they might get a m more advanced lifestyle, in a more developed country.

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UKGUY
  Oct 26, 07, 18:09  #101

In a few years to come more and more factories will move to Poland and Eastern/central europe, thus meaning there will be more jobs in POland and less in England. Therefore there will be more sense to stay in Poland and I think people won't migrate so much.
???

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zuzi0mail
  Oct 27, 07, 10:02  #102

Quoting: polish_pete
I am English & interested to know as poland is such a loverly looking place, why do you all need to come here to england? I am not meaning anything nasty would just like to know from a polish point of view how it is for you?


Uhh...Not meaning to offend "pete" but your question tells a lot about your common sense. Where have you been all your life? Living in a box? Sheesh!
Hmmm let’s think...why would Polish people want to come to England?
1. To see the queen
2. Because the Beatles came from England
3. Because it’s nice
4. They like swarming into countries randomly because they have nothing better to do at home.

I mean really!! How old is this dude?? It’s like little kids saying "mum why do we have to go to the shops?” Well, honey, the shops sell food, and once we eat the food we have at home we need to go buy some more.

Britain has the POUND which, if you watch TV, take part in general discussions, maybe read the paper, and you’re not a total vegetable or fruit-loop, you'll know that the POUND is REALLY HIGH. Britain has one of the highest currencies in the world. A currency is, in economics, a term designating all the circulating media of exchange of a country.
Poland’s Zloty (a monetary unit of Poland consisting of 100 groszy) is pretty LOW. And since Poland has become a member of the EU (which is a European supranational organization dedicated to increasing economic integration and strengthening cooperation among its member states) the Polish can travel to England without a VISA, as well as work there. With the Polish zloty being LOWER than the British Pound, Polish people as well as other people around Europe and the rest of the world, come to Britain to earn MONEY! And why?
1. Because people need money to survive and to enjoy life
2. Because they CAN
3. Because there are opportunities
4. Because they are needed

Arg, this is so stupid, I’m wasting my time. It’s not like he’ll get it anyway. He’ll just say “I was just asking, I don’t wanna offend anyone, I just want to know why!” even after a million people give him detailed answers. Sigh. I guess some people are just like that.


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telefonitika
  Oct 27, 07, 10:08  #103

Quoting: zuzi0mail
zuzi0mail


good call zuzi0mail on nail there all that :)


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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  Oct 27, 07, 10:21  #104

Why do Poles come to England? The answear is the same as in the question "Why do dogs lick their crotches?

BECAUSE THEY CAN! ;))

- edit -

Good post zuzi0mail. :)


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Kataryna
  Oct 27, 07, 11:03  #105

I am a Polish American, living in the US. In the late to early 1900's, Polish immigrants came to the US and took all the low paying, unskilled jobs, because that's all that was available to them. The Poles lived in Slavic communities, amoungst 'their own' people. They were looked down at by 'other' Americans. Poles were considered the bottom of the barrel, class and culture wise.

The Polish people, along with the Italians and Germans before them, and the English before them, immigrated to the US to find a better life. To raise their children in a prosperous place and earn a good living. In the beginning of their immigrations, their lives were stressfull and hard. After 1 generation, the immigrants families were mainstream with the 'other' American ethnic groups.

What I'm hearing going on in England now is an influx of immigrants who are in the same boat as the immigrants who came to the US. England and Ireland have never had such an influx of immigrants. They never had a need before.

I don't have an answer......but I know people are trying to make good lives for themselves and you can't blame them for that. It the Poles are terrorizing society, living off the welfare state and sleeping in doorways....yes, there's a problem and quite honestly, they, alond with other immigrants should be sent back to their home country.

If I lived in a country that was not as priviledged as another, I'd leave too.


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0Adam0
  Oct 27, 07, 21:49  #106

THIS MESAAGE IS DIRECTED AT THE HYPOCRITS, LIARS, RACISTS, AND FOOLS, THAT HAVE BEEN POSTING.
And anyone else who wishes to read.

These people are on all sides - English, Polish, American, etc, mixes of them blah,blah.
You are all talking a cross eachother.

Some say - poles steal our jobs!,
Some counter with - We do your crap jobs and get treated badly.

Both of which are generalisations. Yet BOTH sides are copmplaining that the other are are generalising.

YOU BOTH ARE, AND YOU'RE BOTH TALKING OUT OF YOUR BOTTOMS.

Some places treat workers badly, some good. Some people feel all the jobs are being taken, this is usually sours grapes as both sides think they could get a beter deal. Unfortunately not - That's life I'm afraid. Sometimes you'll miss out on something, and it's easy to blame the typical nearest scape goat. Except it's usually not the case.


I'd say Polish people come hereBECAUSE they can get jobs that pay more.
WHY NOT?
I ADMIRE someone who will uproot their lives leave their families friend homes sweethearts and everything they have to come here and work hard to send back to their family
That should be praised not shunned!
yes their is a large influx of people coming into our country


but if you looked at the stats _ our population isnt growing at the moment
we need people to come into our country
anyone who complains clearly has know idea of what they are talking about



I would have answer your question polish_pete and would have defended you to the last
had you not proven that you ARE being nasty about it but trying to hide it by being nice
I know you did this because you said harsh things about the poles coming into our country and "taking all our jobs" or however you put it
i"m not saying the other guy was rigth to say the horrible stuff either
both of you werenot justified

anyone else has a problem ill gladly put you in your place as well

OH AND THE ORGINAL QUESTION HAHA

why the uk _ more money _ better chance of a job _ similar culture _ nice people (mostly) _ good touring sites _ pleasent country side _ why other countries i dont know

why leave poland _ i@m quite ignorant on this but judging from othe poles" remarks _ they"ve unemployment _ confused political status _ less money _ weaker currency _ a chance for something a little more

I say again _ WHY NOT?

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z_darius
  Oct 27, 07, 22:26  #107

Quoting: polish_pete
Poles arent about intergrating into out society , they bring there own culture , throw it in our faces, use the U.K's "soft touch" appeal for there own uses and then go back to poland with the profits...kinda sounds like your examples of other countires.

I had a chucklel when I read that :)


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plk123
  Oct 27, 07, 22:41  #108

Quoting: polish_pete
they bring there own culture

Quoting: z_darius
I had a chucklel when I read that :)

me too as we are the original barbarians. lol


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MGAG [Guest]
  Nov 1, 07, 00:50  #109

Whatever it is please fix it so they will all just go back home!!!

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Puzzler
  Nov 1, 07, 03:37  #110

Quoting: MGAG
Whatever it is please fix it so they will all just go back home!!!


- Another racist scumbag?

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sledz
  Nov 1, 07, 04:09  #111

Quoting: Puzzler
Another racist scumbag?

looking in mirror again?

go back into the archives and reply

please dont answer my question with another question again

where did you live in the US????????

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roalex
  Nov 1, 07, 04:15  #112

I think that Poles go for the money. In Poland they don't earn anywhere near enough cash as they would living in Ireland, England or Germany.

It's all about $$$$$$$$

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hb44
  Nov 2, 07, 00:39  #113

Quoting: roalex
It's all about $$$$$$$$



well of course it is...why else would people leave their families and decent jobs they studied hard for to come to Ireland, England etc to wash dishes in a restaurant? they can make better money in these places and then go home and be in a much better position.....its the same as the Irish did a hundred years ago and we got slack for it too. Why does it really matter if people come to another country to find work? as long as they're not sponging off the state then let them be.

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UKGUY
  Nov 2, 07, 04:17  #114

Its alright for all these Polish people - going home will lots of money. Where can us (The British go?) Its hard for us to live in another country and we have to live on low wages nowadays. I think any proud Pole would stay in their country. I have heard so many Poles say "Poland is shi-t, the Peopl are Sh-it and its got a peasant economy" These people are week and feeble, also i have no respect for them as they are degenerates.

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z_darius
  Nov 2, 07, 06:10  #115

Quoting: UKGUY
Its alright for all these Polish people - going home will lots of money. Where can us (The British go?) Its hard for us to live in another country and we have to live on low wages nowadays.

I'd like as many Brits as possible to come over to Canada. Plenty of space here. Come over, especially if you are an enterprising type.


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hb44
  Nov 2, 07, 06:53  #116

Quoting: UKGUY
Its alright for all these Polish people - going home will lots of money.



I hardly think they go home with lots of money, the cost of living in the countries that the Polish people go to are hardly cheap, they still have rent to pay, food to eat and try have some sort of normal life to lead so its not like they're going home buying top of the range cars or huge houses is it? (maybe I'm wrong but can't imagine thats how it works)

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