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What's wrong with you, Polish people - is it an inferiority complex?


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Grzegorz_
  Dec 20, 07, 17:02  #31

southern wrote:


X says to Y:You are an elephant.
Y says,no I am not!
X:Probably you have inferiority complex.


True...

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omniba [Guest]
  Dec 20, 07, 17:14  #32

X says to Y:You are an Polish elephant.
Y says, it's all Mr Churchill's fault
X:Probably you have an inferiority complex.

:) It is nearly Christmas and I do hope you have a sense of humour!

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southern
  Dec 20, 07, 17:35  #33

X:You are a polish elefant
Y:Churchill is responsible for that.
X:Without Mr. Churchill you would be a mosquito.Do you feel inferior to a mosquito?

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rafik
  Dec 20, 07, 20:02  #34

Dice wrote:
prism of our Nationality

because it is what we are.you can't change your nationality cos you get a new passport.or maybe you can?
Dice wrote:
About the superiority of Polish Culture over the Muslim Culture

it's not about superiority.it's about danger that this religion brings to europe.
Dice wrote:
How dare those German bustards this and that...

when a german says that the 3rd reich was a good thing beause this and that,we have to answer
Dice wrote:
Those damned Jews

everyone is entitled to ones opinions.personally i really like the jewish people
Dice wrote:
zero Jews and

such a shame
Dice wrote:
or Muslims living in Poland

thank god
Dice wrote:
What's wrong with us Polish People?"

Dice wrote:
yes, it is an inferiority complex

you are the best example of a pole with inferiority complex.someone who is ashamed for what other poles do.someone who don't speak polish when others listen or try to speak with more american accent than americans do.poor you

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Eurola
  Dec 20, 07, 20:41  #35

Maxxx Payne wrote:
Polish inferiority complex ? I dont think so....
For me Poles are nation who are not taking any crap, and thats way it should be.
West is doing its suicide with its leftist PC´ness and west is jealous for people who dare to make a stand.


Bravo MaxxxP. That's exactly what I think.

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ShelleyS
  Dec 21, 07, 09:16  #36

rafik wrote:
it's not about superiority.it's about danger that this religion brings to europe.


good point

rafik wrote:
everyone is entitled to ones opinions.personally i really like the jewish people


good boy :)

I see that some things never change, Im sure that peple from all over the world have nferiority complexes...thats life

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omniba [Guest]
  Dec 22, 07, 10:27  #37

ShelleyS wrote:
Im sure that peple from all over the world have nferiority complexes

Well of course they do - but having complexes doesn't make life any easier. That's why people try to get rid of them.

southern wrote:
X:Without Mr. Churchill you would be a mosquito.Do you feel inferior to a mosquito?

I've been thinking about this for two days, now. But I still don't get it. :)

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Foreigner4
Edited by: Foreigner4  Dec 22, 07, 11:22  #38

Grzegorz_ wrote:
So who has this problem ? Where ? When ? How does It look like ?

you do. here. now. look in a mirror.

ok ok all kidding aside:

Grzegorz_ wrote:
omniba wrote:
Well, these are the signs of an inferiority complex: sensitivity to criticism, hypercritical attitude, tendency towards blaming, feelings of persecution etc.


X says to Y: You are blah blah blah...
Y denies, so...

Y has inferiority complex... wow.


it is more the vehemence of your responses-me think he doth protest too much- which may lead someone to nominate you as chairman of the board of the poles with a national identity complex group.

but i guess opinions are like arses- most of them stink.

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omniba [Guest]
  Dec 22, 07, 12:28  #39

Foreigner4 wrote:
national identity complex

It's not a national identity problem though - Poles know who they are, they know their history etc. - it's just that there is a tendency to get so defensive even when no-one is really attacking. There is also a tendency to lose the sense of humour and to jump down peoples' throats if there is even the slightest criticism, instead of replying rationally and coolly and explaining what the Polish perspective on everything is.

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Foreigner4
Edited by: Foreigner4  Dec 22, 07, 12:31  #40

my bad, i'll edit, cheers for keeping me honest

*sigh* Foreigner4 has tried to no avail it can't be re-edited

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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Dec 22, 07, 13:59  #41

Foreigner4 wrote:
which may lead someone to nominate you as chairman of the board of the poles with a national identity complex group.


Well, no matter what "national identity complex" is, all I can say about your post is... yawn... which "obviously" only confirms my inferiority complex...

Generally "inferiority complex" is just like "racism" and similar things something people use when they run out of arguments and once this "wunderwaffe" is used you know that this is the end of serious discussion because no matter what the answer is that supposedly only confirms the person "is" or "have" It.

omniba wrote:
there is a tendency to get so defensive even when no-one is really attacking.


Because pretending that It's raining when someone is spitting on you would be so normal...

...and when one fool or another claims that HIV rate in Poland is very high or that Poles are idiots then showing statistics which proves something else is a matter of inferiority comples... now that's a logic...

omniba wrote:
There is also a tendency to lose the sense of humour and to jump down peoples' throats if there is even the slightest criticism


Hmm... So maybe I will start opening topics about UK - British are liars and thievs, qeen is old bitch, British would be still monkeys without other nations, British (any city/region in UK) is a dirty dump populated by idiots etc. and then we will test British sense of humour ?

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 22, 07, 14:23  #42

lol - you just dont get it...do you

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Wyspianska
  Dec 22, 07, 14:25  #43

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Hmm... So maybe I will start opening topics about UK - British are liars and thievs, qeen is old bitch, British would be still monkeys without other nations

It's not neccesary to open topics about OBVIOUS things :)

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_Sofi_ [Guest]
Edited by: _Sofi_  Dec 22, 07, 14:28  #44

I agree with you there, Grzegorz. Also it's true, no matter what you say it will only 'confirm' otherwise... I don't know why you'd bother!
Grzegorz_ wrote:
British are liars and thievs, qeen is old bitch, British would be still monkeys without other nations, British (any city/region in UK) is a dirty dump populated by idiots etc. and then we will test British sense of humour ?

Could be fun ;p Yet I disagree about the queen: you left out 'rigid' - a rigid old bitch. Obviously the rest is true.

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southern
Edited by: southern  Dec 22, 07, 14:31  #45

I think it has to do with the features that stereotypes attribute.I mean a stereotype of Poles drinking much would not bother them,but jokes about stupidity hurt them.
The classic about English is that they are all gays.

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 22, 07, 14:43  #46

youre right - our women just cant get enough of those beautiful polish girls

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_Sofi_ [Guest]
  Dec 22, 07, 14:46  #47

BubbaWoo wrote:
our women just cant get enough of those beautiful polish girls

They drive me wild :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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Wyspianska
  Dec 22, 07, 14:48  #48

Hmm when i started to think... Polish men should have an inferiority complex because of English. I can tell since i got some experiences.

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omniba [Guest]
Edited by: omniba  Dec 22, 07, 14:48  #49

Grzegorz_ wrote:
the end of serious discussion

Serious discussion ends, surely, when people get over-touchy and start insulting others instead of putting forward good arguments to prove their point.

People can appear to be racist because of what they say, and they can appear to have an inferiority complex by how they say something.

Grzegorz_ wrote:
something people use when they run out of arguments


Very true. Both "racism" and "inferiority complex" accusations can be used as a weapon, and those who resort to such tactics use are usually the people who don't have sufficient knowledge to back up the points they want to make - therefore they too have a very obvious inferiority complex.

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Because pretending that It's raining when someone is spitting on you would be so normal...

...and when one fool or another claims that HIV rate in Poland is very high or that Poles are idiots then showing statistics which proves something else is a matter of inferiority comples... now that's a logic...



No - I'm not saying that you have to take insults with a smile. Not at all. But you see in any discussion the person who manages to keep calm while all around everyone is screaming insults, actually wins the "battle" ....this is logical.

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southern
  Dec 22, 07, 15:16  #50

omniba wrote:
But you see in any discussion the person who manages to keep calm while all around everyone is screaming insults, actually wins the "battle" ....this is logical.


The problem is that sometimes the person who keeps calm is the one who outrages the others who start screaming insults.

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omniba [Guest]
  Dec 22, 07, 15:22  #51

southern wrote:
the person who keeps calm is the one who outrages the others who start screaming insults


I'll accept your point if you show me an example. :)

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southern
  Dec 22, 07, 15:31  #52

omniba wrote:
I'll accept your point if you show me an example. :)


It is easy.Here it is internet and there is no physical presence,so it is impossible to see if somebody is angry or raises his voice etc.In the real world when sb expresses an argument,he gets under pressure.His ability to stand the pressure will define the luck or not of his argument,cause if he gets angry he will lose his right.
So if another person who is not right manages to make you angry while he stays calm,he will win because you did not control your emotions the right way cause in real life there are lots of emotions involved.But in internet the person who is angry will prevail because his anger passes unnoticed while the calm person appears weak.So internet argument changes the natural frame of discussion and maybe leads to what they call ''victory of the retarded'',that is the person who loses will tell you that in real world you would have no chance since he could manage better his emotions and set a different frame and a lot more qualities would appear that are not obvious in internet argument.Sorry for my english.

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omniba [Guest]
  Dec 22, 07, 17:03  #53

southern wrote:
in internet the person who is angry will prevail because his anger passes unnoticed while the calm person appears weak.


Your English is fine..
For a start, here on the net when people write and are literally seething with anger it is very visible - they start thrashing about, lose the thread of the argument, often repeating one word on and on, often insulting - instead of using the one great advantage that the internet offers: the ability to go away for a bit, check facts, cool down, and return to reiterate their point with more facts, or simply with a more lucid phrase. Calmly. And without losing prestige.

After all, every nation is judged by the ordinary people who speak for it, far more than by its official ambassadors. There is that to remember, too.

It's easy to bluster and shout - anyone can do that - but it simply leads nowhere. Those who offend and insult are just considered primitive, so where is the victory? Saying "He made me do it" is no excuse - unless one is five years old, and I believe most of us here haven't been five for quite a few years.

Were we dealing with subjects like football, then fair enough - shout, scream - who cares? But here we're discussing some important matters and we have this golden opportunity to be able to do it irrespective of who and where we are in the world. It would be nice to use this opportunity well.

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Foreigner4
  Dec 22, 07, 17:33  #54

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Because pretending that It's raining when someone is spitting on you would be so normal...


hmmm, the metaphor used there speaks volumes about the mindset behind it.
*yawns*

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 22, 07, 17:38  #55

Double yawn...

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rafik
Edited by: rafik  Dec 22, 07, 18:29  #56

Grzegorz_ wrote:
British are liars and thievs

Grzegorz_ wrote:
British would be still monkeys without other nations

Wyspianska wrote:
It's not neccesary to open topics about OBVIOUS things :)

Wyspianska wrote:
Polish men should have an inferiority complex because of English. I can tell since i got some experiences

i got a bit confused with it...

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omniba [Guest]
  Dec 23, 07, 00:36  #57

rafik wrote:
i got a bit confused with it...

You're not the only one - same here! :)

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Dice
  Dec 26, 07, 14:02  #58

I think I get it now.
Poles have to do many degrading and low-paid jobs all over Europe, because their own economy is in shambles. Maybe that's why they simply feel undervalued; hence all these racist posts here.
What's scary to me is the fact that people smearing those racist comments here are young, educated (I think) and speaking English. They are not the "old guard" of post-commie retirees. I am surprised also that there is no opposing voice, nobody with common sense telling these guys that it is not OK to be a xenophobic racist.
My hope is that when the new generation of migrant workers will return home the attitude on race will change, just like it did a few years ago toward gays. Maybe then it will not be socially acceptable to be racist, chauvinistic, or anti-Semitic.

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Seanus
  Dec 26, 07, 14:23  #59

I respect Polish people and am grateful that I received gainful employment in this country. What I would say is that, not in criticism, Polish employers need to keep working on the relationship between graduates and the workplace. Way back in 1998, I did a placement that helped me to get work experience and develop different skills. The course I did for 4 years has been changed a little and now has the added option of taking up a place in an exchange course such as Socrates or Erasmus. I did a postgraduate course to enhance my knowledge base and job prospects but that isn't always enough. I've grown to learn that education is fundamentally different from training and that a growing awareness of the job market is critical. Poles, almost unquestionably, receive a formidable education but that doesn't always translate into a meaningful job position. Like us in Scotland, many graduated at the wrong time and too many people were searching for too few jobs. Hence the influx of Poles to the UK. It's not an inferiority complex in its fullest form, it's necessity. Let's not forget that 'necessity is the mother of invention'

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 26, 07, 15:18  #60

Dice wrote:
I think I get it now.


Honestly I don't. Why some guy from America pretend to be Polish and try to spread defetism, things like "We" suck, "We" have a problem. You don't even know basic words in Polish, so mind your business pal. And If Poles are so racist, so let It be, still better than western societies where fagism is seen as the highest level of human developement and 10 years old kids have "sex education" at school. Now call me anti-semitic and xenophobic, that always make me feel better.

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