What's wrong with you, Polish people - is it an inferiority complex?

Do you feel better when you impute to all of us your own problem? According to popular opinion that together/united we will survive. Students in school when they fail to pass some exam usually feel better if most of their colleagues failed as well. They think that if so many failed then maybe "we are not that bad".

Don't confuse an inferiority complex with one of transition. The Polish nation is in a state of flux, not only with the change of govt, but also with the recognition of qualifications abroad. Many years ago, the EU was seeking to harmonise/streamline this process but it gets obfuscated somewhat in reality. The waters got muddied in other words. Poles are proud and sometimes overly so but maybe that's a defensive posture that serves to drive them forward. Americans cannot exactly be too proud now either. As 'lesser' said tacitly/implicitly, u need benchmarks or yardsticks by which to gauge urselves. What is success and self-actualisation after all? The point is that u have to know what u want. If u don't know what u want, u'll never get it. As the great US comedian Bill Hicks once said, "u gotta use ur options folks". If America is the leader, then know what ur goal is and pursue it without any complex by using ur options

If I understand your point well, I think that sometimes both problems may exist alongside.

Of course, they can mutually co-exist but I was merely trying to differentiate them. It just depends who u ask, some Poles will tell u that all is well and that they are on an even footing with their neighbours on a range of issues whereas others may feel that Poland has some catching up to do. Statistically, Poland has been one of the fastest growing, if not the fastest growing economy in recent years amongst the new HCP's/accedents to the EU Treaty. The German economy was in a slump for quite a while and lost some credibility. The Poles must simply realise their potential

It's not I who writes all those racist posts here. I am the one who points out the problem of intolerance, racism and anti-Semitism that exist in the Polish Nation. What really kills me is the fact that all this xenophobic hatred comes from a nation of nomadic migrant workers, which depends on tolerance and goodwill of other nations like GB, Irland, France, etc to host them and provide them with jobs and social services.

Quite frankly, the biggest problem in Poland is the salaries that the 'przyciętny Polak' receives. From talking with my Polish friends, they are confident in their abilities to pass their respective examinations but they have it hard. They slave away at Uni and receive very little by way of financial reward from their jobs. They must have great intrinsic motivation or act out of necessity in order to move forward in life. Sad but true!!

Nobody ever said that Poland is the center of the universe...

Poles usually react nationalistically when attacked... for example, Jews and Germans trying to force their way on Polish land.

Why should they have a right to our ancestral land? If we keep out of Germany and Israel, why do they force themselves on us?

That's the thing. They don't "keep out of Germany", or France, or GB, or Ireland or most other countries where they can make a buck. If they could make any money in Israel, there would be millions of Poles in Israel too. There are millions of Polish all over the world, moving in without the language, the culture, etc.
Everywhere they go they are being helped by tolerant people who are open to other cultures and helpful to foreigners. And yet here, on this board, all I read is: "Those f-ing Germans" "Those f-ing Jews" "Those f-ing Muslims". What gives?

Quite on the contrary.

Poles do "keep out" of Germany, England, etc.

Most Poles today in the UK and in Ireland are just day laborers who are not permanent residents. They're just filling a job void in those countries and making a buck - and then returning to Poland.

Same for most of the Poles in Germany, France, and the Scandinavian nations.

As for the Poles who do become permanent residents, they usually assimilate to the dominant population. Although Poles still practice their traditions and culture, you don't see long picket lines of Poles demanding that Germany or Ireland or whatever nation pass this or that law.

On the other hand, Germans and Jews are actively demanding that we pay them to take our land because of "social injustice." Furthermore, Germans have historically been unwilling to assimilate in Poland. All that we can expect, based on experience and on the opinions of the German "Bund," is a strong foreign but anti-Polish residence in Poland, if we let these people in.

This is completely contrary to how Poles have either assimilated or just "pass by" (i.e. are laborers, not permanent residents) their host nations.

Erm....there must be millions of now Germans with polish roots who came for work and stayed!

MILLIONS!

Just an example:

"...Polish immigration to Germany


For the rising Ruhr district it became scarcely with good workers in the middle of 19th century . As part of the Kingdom of Prussia, it had become within short time a supplying pole, along with the beginning of industrialization at 1840. There was enough coal, which was there to the dismantling, also metals was manufactured. Therefore people looked for a solution. Chiefs recruited starting from 1870 purposefully in East Germany, but mainly in Poland, workers who were ready, to leave their homeland for a good money. They were allowed to carry their family with them, partly those were also simply enterprising loners.
They came from all parts of Poland, among other things "Masuren". As a Slavic people with Slavic culture and language they left traces in the entire Ruhr Area until today, some went back again, but most remained. Many people in Ruhr Area have Polish ancestors, often also Polish surnames. ..."

Laugh,I nearly wet my pants :)
Dice has some great points,keep the 1970s style bigotry back in Poland if you want,we had enough of it already here in the UK. G' you are a classic bigot buddy,face it,you simply dont realise how old fashioned and out of touch you come across to "westerners".

WTF ??



Do you know that few centuries before there was huge German immigration to Poland ?

What do you think about gay people?or Muslims? anything nice to say?

Why the hell are you talking to me here ? Are you looking for problems ?

er,because its a forum......free speach,and besides I was merely replying to your question.Look back on a few of your posts on this thread,then tell me with a straight face that you are not a bit of a bigoted person, an example of 1970s atitudes being carried on in the 21st century.

lol,who are you Robert Deniroski?

Are you talking to me, r u talking to me? hehehe. "Go ahead punk, make my day". Gotta love American actors.

Good job dismissing my points out of hand even though I already explained the reasoning behind them (most Poles are migrant laborers, not permanent residents).

You truly classify as a moron.

Congratulations.

So maybe you should finally move your head out of your ass and pay more attention to 99.99% of posts, which aren't about "Those f-ing Germans" "Those f-ing Jews" "Those f-ing Muslims" ? You "sir" from America came here with obvious intention to apologize and bash yourself somehow in the name of all Poles although you don't even now how to spell basic Polish words... You know what ? This is not normal behavior. Definately not. You better give up your obsession with Poles and help yourself before It's too late.



I'm a green light for common sense... Anyway, the thing is... why the hell do you call me a bigot talking with some other guy ??

*yawn*

This is annoying for Westerners that you want to keep traditions and culture although you are white.

You don't need to look at Polish philology to see how important religion and culture are to Poles. Knowing ur previous postings southern, u wouldn't have said this as I've just read it. U seem to be smarter than that. Westerners don't have that much to be annoyed at

Could you explain what you mean here, please?

I don’t know about the Polish Diaspora prior to WWII, but the 1940s Polish émigrés systematically helped their families back in Poland (once the war had ended and this became possible) by sending money, food, clothes, books, toys, tickets, various equipment, more money and of course medicines.

This was not done without sacrifice, but it was done with immense pleasure and in the firm belief that this help would lessen the hardships suffered by those “back home”, and would in some way add to their happiness.

The Poles abroad, while blending into their adopted countries and learning new ways (not always an easy task), maintained, at least in part, their Polish-ness. The Poles “back home” meanwhile, knew that should they ever find themselves in need, help from their émigré families would be immediately forthcoming.

Whether abroad or in Poland there was a unity of spirit. These people, wherever they were in the world, were all Poles.

Over time some of the émigrés started to forget the language. These things happen when there is no other Polish person to converse with or when there are no Polish books to read, for example. It’s life. However, an interest in Poland, a spiritual link with the country and a hope for her success does not necessarily diminish with the loss of language.

That is why the quoted comments above have a rather inelegant quality about them: were these émigré Poles only good enough to be Polish as long as they poured money and goods into Poland, by any chance? Are these émigré Poles not good enough, not Polish enough, to pass even a small criticism, now that things are getting better “back home”?

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Poles tagged as racists in London


if what I was saying wasn't true, then where do stories like this one come from? Things that make you go "hmmm..."

Some people just can't get over their victim mentality, others just want to stay in business. Maybe you should provide statistics showing the number of "people of colour" attacked by Poles and the number of Poles attacked by very tolarant and peace loving "people of colour", so we could verify, who is more racist ?