WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland

Jan really does need to stick to politics. Both Polish armed forces, the Western and the Eastern outfits, were invited to the Victory Parade. The Soviet army didn’t turn up and the Free Polish forces declined to march.

********. The first British attack on Germany was the day immediately after war was declared.

Keep repeating the lies the Nazis and the Commies taught Poland.

It is not name calling, it is a statement of fact: you are a liar.

Maybe but Poland was not considered to be one of the "victors" of the war, while France was. And that's weird because French gov collaborated, the Polish gov didn't...



Hmm...see what Wikipedia says... :

"In September 1939, Germany invaded Poland in cooperation with the Soviet Union, and war in Europe followed. The French and British did not declare war at first, hoping they could persuade Hitler through appeasement, but Hitler did not respond. The United Kingdom and France declared war. During the winter of 1939–1940 there was little overt indication of hostilities since neither side was willing to engage the other directly. This period was called the Phoney War"

You mean the "Soviet army" that took over our contry when we were betrayed, right?

They were busy trying to find a home after being betrayed and losing their country. No they were not invited as they were no longer needed to die for others. Carol

opps country not contry

Just in the september campaign alone there were 950 000 polish soldiers taking part.

source


In the final stage of WW2 there were 600 000 Polish soldiers fighting in both alliance and soviet army plus there were also 300 000 Polish home army soldiers. Even if we take your 400 000 figure as a valid one (I really don’t have the time to question your figures) there were 700 000 polish soldiers fighting at the final stage of WWII.

Through out the WWII there were over 2 000 000 Poles under arms fighting.

September 1: German invasion of Poland. British give German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop an ultimatum: all German forces out Poland or war will be declared.
September 3: 9am British ambassador to Berlin gives Nazi govt message "unless not later than 11 A.M., British Summer Time, to-day 3rd September, satisfactory assurances to the above effect have been given by the German Government and have reached His Majesty's Government in London, a state of war will exist between the two countries as from that hour."
September 3: 11am Britain declares war on Germany.
September 3: 12.03pm first British plane bound for German airspace airborne.
September 17: Soviet Union invades Poland.

Looks like the person writing that text for wikipedia knew **** all.

Liar. Free Polish forces were invited to the Victory Parade.

600,000 plus 300,000 equals more than 2,000,000? Nice maths.

Even if your 600,000 and 300,000 figures are accurate, that still means Poland was the eighth biggest army, not the fourth biggest as was originally claimed.

And let's not forget that at least 89,000 Poles fought for the Nazis.

Harry,

Must you go into time out for name calling?

Speaking of not telling the truth.

fact is no 1 did anything openly exept for declaring wars and such untill hitler came knocking on hes door, uk and france declared wars and didnt do sht, at least not untill hitler came and kick the thing that france called military, england finally responded and sent some troops to help france, after first couple fights brits were retreating faster than germans approaching... USA didnt give a f untill Pearl Harbor [considering that americans dont really like uk after revolutionary war and all its not a suprise]. yea they sent airplanes and other means of support to uk but most of it unoficjally, congress didnt agree to openly support anyone in that war so they had to "smuggle" US airplanes to canada and than send them to uk [i read bout it in one of the history books]. if france wasnt habbitet by bunch of cowards [thac how they look to me after all this, after napoleon the didnt rly do anything to improve their military apparently, since germas kicked them out of the picture faster than Poland], uk tried to keep the invincible from happening and payed the price, thinking theyre safe cuz of the navy, air force and fact that uk is an island. and at the end good russia helping with hitler, apparently someones forgetting who was helping him at the beggining, if hitler didnt attack russia hed prolly hold on to what he had and wed be all speaking eather german or russian now...

600 000 plus 300 000 equals 900 000 and this is the number of Polish soldiers participating in the final stage of this conflict. Still some people die on the war and other people come to replace them. During the whole war there were over 2 000 000 polish soldiers participating in this conflict. Of course let's not forget that at least 89,000 Poles fought for the Nazis. ;))

I hope that everything is clear now.

Sadly, USA was helping "Stalin" and on the western side. When they wanted (along with Britian) to help Poland, it was "Stalin" that said no.

Thank God Polish are such strong people. With what they went through by all rights they should have perished. Polish people are, "strong like bulls". This was why men like Stalin had them "unarmed" and still had to tie their hands (Katyn) before shooting them in the head. Or attack them when "unarmed" on farms (kresy) with their families sleeping. Maybe we should be wondering what the outcome for Poland would have been had just the last two things not taken place?
Carol

If you keep lying, I will continue to point out that you are lying. British servicemen and civilians were dying for Poland for six years. British servicemen starting dying for Poland on September 4. So don't lie about Britain doing noting.

Polish free forces were invited to the Victory Parade in London and refused to attend, so don't lie about them not being invited.


Interesting that the film claims that Poles used Bofors guns when in reality 75% of the guns were Polish wz.36. And it claims that 378 German planes were shot down by the Polish airforce when in reality the Luftwaffe lost 285 planes to all caused. Nice to see the usual lies coming out.

"Military losses were 66,300 in the 1939 Invasion of Poland, 10,000 in Polish Armed Forces in the West, 24,700 with the 1st Polish Army alongside the USSR and 60,000 Polish resistance movement fighters." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
But you say 1,100,000 Poles were killed fighting. Hmm....


"During the war 2.7 million Polish citizens declared their loyalty to Germany by signing the Deutsche Volksliste. A German source lists the deaths of 108,000 Polish citizens serving in the German armed forces.[31,115]."
So we can make that at least 200,000 Poles fought for the Nazis.

soon well have more Polish ppl in Natzi army than Germans... as far as I know US mustangs were flying over uk not russia. People fighting in ressistance during the Warsaw thing [dunno if it should be called upriseing or what...], westerplatte, all those resistace fighters, includeing young people [some from scouts] fighting for freedom, saying that so and so many Poles fought alongside natzis is imo like spitting them in face, most of those fighting in german army were eather forced or if they did it on their own they were germans liveing in poland, cant rly belive that a Polish person would join natzis out of their own free will and help them...

Harry,
This is part 5 of 5.

Yes this is true they were invited but they were not allowed participate in the actual Victory Parade itself, the same was the story for the Polish Air Force Pilot's who were so offended that they did not attend.

The only reason for this was to not upset "Joe Stalin", and it's a sad part of our British history, but politics are politics and I suppose if they went against Russia at the time who knows what would have happened, and a possibility is that most of Europe would only now be emerging from Soviet rule.

It's a thought!!!

Wow, that's so big...i'm sorry i don't see where is the war ? For you, a plane "enjoying" a trip in the German sky helped the Polish armies attacked by German tanks ? That's your definition of "war" ?...

As a Slav and Serb it is my duty to warn Poles that Brits are treacherous allay partner, same as USA and France. They ride with worse mujaheedines when is needed that deal with Slavs.

On this Earth only other Slavs could be able to arise for Poland following their emotional bonds with Poles. For all others it is just matter of interest

As economist I would agree that interests must represent crucial goal. To say- pure efficiency. But then, what is one if does not live for some emotional goal

Yeah Russia is better, YUK !!...Most of the people here are okay with Polish people ;)

Actually these ''Osttruppen'' of Wehrmacht were the worst divisions of the german army ever.They surrendered in masses to Anglosaxons in Normandy and showed no serious desire to fight.(opposite to norwegian,swedish and belgian SS who were first class fighters).

The soviet army of course did not help them at all.They let them being slaughtered by Germans between August-Oktober 1944 while the red army stood only 20 km from Warsaw.Stalin simply refused to intervene to facilitate Poland joining the West.

Maybe because Poles were considered by the Nazis as an "underrace", and the opposit for Norwegians and Swedes...why would the Poles fight for people who think they are just "sheeps"...

Actually they helped Stalin only in the western side.In the japanese front,Soviet Union and USA were not allies!This was the agreement.
Had USA not helped SU with track and food supplies,USA would be now under german rule.They had to,because otherwise american soldiers would die in millions.Til the end of the war only 300000 americans died while red army losses reached 8 millions.

It was because Poles never embraced the nazi ideology.

Want facts?

Russian state in past was very cruel on both, on Poles and on Russians too. We just have to see what would be path of modern Russian state.

Currently, no matter that in `poor conditions` Russian state is moral giant for so called democratic false west.


Only Serbs on this Earth need Poles desperately for emotional and for practical reasons. In the same time, we feel same for Russians. That`s how it is with Serbs and that`s why we are alone

Others? They are maybe okay with Poles, maybe not. Poles knows ewerything

And you still wonder why ?...



You mean the country were last elections were a big con ? Putin is gonna be Prime Minister, and then, next elections he'll be president again. Nice country. Poor people...
And personally, i don't see what i have in common with a Russian...

The English saved the world from Nazisim - period. Our great nation stood up to the evil and prevailed albeit with the help of a few colonoliasts and eventually the US.

God save the Queen!!