WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland

Hitler had conquored every nation he had fought till the British, so when I say that we saved the World i mean it but not in a military fasion. In the words of Winston Churchill " Hitlers knows he must conquor England in this Island or lose the war".

The British were a beacon of light for the World at this time and thank god goodness prevailed, had Hitler beaten Us who knows what world we would be living in right now.

Sweden was never occupied!! Or Switzerland!!

Don't think that Britain was the only nation to fight. The countries defeated continued to resist. Many of those resistants died. They deserve as many honours than your Britain, bud :)

Switzerland is a "special" case...
Norway was invaded as Finland. Sweden were neutral but provided materials to Germany...

1940:Defeat against Wehrmacht in France. Rescue in Normandy due to Hitler's generosity.

The BEF had a lucky escape. True.

1941:Defeat against Wehrmacht in Norway

Operation Claymore or Archery? Both were Commando raids designed to disrupt and tie up German materiel. Both were very successful if memory serves.

1941:Defeat against Wehrmacht in Greece

The British expressly stated they could not provide enough manpower to repluse any German attack. That being the case, it's hardly surprising.

1941:Defeat against Wehrmacht in Kreta

Freyberg (Enzedder btw) and his troops inflicted heavy losses on the Fallschirmjäger during the battle, to such an extent that Hitler never allowed another Airborne operation to be carried out. They were beaten yes, but were beaten more by mistakes in command and control, rather than superior opposition.

I notice you missed out the defence of Malta

1942:Defeat against Wehmacht in Tobruk.Surrender of british divisions.

I notice you call them British but make the distinction about Australians and Enzedders later. The division the DAK captured was South African and Tobruk capilutated mainly due to the RN's inability to keep the garrison supplied.

Sluggish progress against Wehrmacht in Italy despite superior supplies and american ammunition and despite plenty of american,new Zealand and Australia forces

Now you're being facetious. The Gustav Line, Monte Cassino, The Bernhardt Line the Senger Line and the Ceaser Line. If you want to call the progress 'slow' then you must blame the Polish second Corps, which did the majority of the fighting at Cassino amongst others. I would personally call it back breaking and heroic.

1944:Stuck up against Wehrmacht for two months in Caen despite air superiority,superior numbers of soldiers,despite american help.Unable to proceed at all at Normandy front

The quality of the German troops here was phenomenal. The Canadians and Brits tasked with taking the city did a very good job against a fanatical foe.

1944:Elimination against Wehrmacht in Arnhem

I'm actually bored now but lightly armed paratroopers holding out against the 2nd Panzer Corps for a week and only withdrawing after the linkup forces including Polish 3 para could not get across the Rhine. Shall we blame the Poles again? Or shall we say it was just a Bridge Too Far? Cheque's in the Post Dirk.

Ardennes

That'll be the Americans then. :)

Finland was an enemy of the third reich and held out throughout the entire war first from Russia and then Germany. An EU continental nation with the power to resist, Merci beaucoup.


Its not only about fighting its about drawing together the resourecs neccesary to win the battle and I believe we did that.

OK, who is going to start a thread - "What my Grandad did in the War " ?

Finland was an enemy of the third reich

*cough* I think you meant Ally until late 1944 then you're correct. :)

Polson to be honest I cant believe your really fighting this losing battle, learn form your mistakes and admit defeat.

The war was not only between England and Germany. There were battles everywhere in the world, and every victories were important. So, yes, England, or the UK (better) did much, but not all. The only problem here is that you claim than England won the war. Personally, i think that noone won. So many losses, too much harm...
England on its own would never have won, i'm sorry to tell you that, but that's the truth.

The Soviet Union attacked Finland on November 30, 1939,

Cough, Cough - splutter

England on its own would never have won, i'm sorry to tell you that, but that's the truth.

Absolutely true. Russia was where it was won and lost.

Thats just about the most stupid thing you could have said at this point in the argument. Are we National Solociasts, no. I rest my case.

Maybe but dont cough at my comments when your post is wrong.

That is very simply a lie. Free Polish forces were invited to participate in the actual Victory Parade itself. They chose not to do so and refused to accept their invitation. I suggest that you read a little history and learn more than just the lies which Polish school-children were taught to parrot by Soviet teachers.

Polish forces representing the government of Poland were also invited to participate in the actual Victory Parade itself and did not refuse to attend: they just didn't turn up.

As a matter of fact (and provable historical record) the British government under Churchill did plan an attack against the Red Army. Check the history books.

It doesnt take a genious to work that out and I never said it anyway.

I assume you mean Finland? Check your nearest history book. I accept apologies in either Public or PM format. :) Btw Bold = quote :)

England was offered peace several times. Each time the offer was rejected because the Nazis would not guarantee there would be an independant Poland.

Of course Poles tend to forget this fact and instead keep repeating the Nazi and Soviet propaganda about how the UK did nothing to help Poland.

I'm sad you didn't get this, but that's true. 70 million people died. Many cities totally destroyed. What did you win then, tell me ? You were the last one to pull the trigger, that makes you so happy ?...

Dude highlight the text and then click quote in the top right of the post, thus quote.

Your bold headings are a little confusing, if i re-read this in the morning and feel you deserve an apology i will but right now im thinking - Nah.

At the beginning of the war, yes. Then Britain did a great job. There's noone to deny it.

WTF are you talking about?

That’s the fact.
History we all know (if not we can always look it up)
However there were three big losers in this war.
Poland – we all know
Germany – obvious
Britten – Lost the empire (and status to U.S)
So bickering who did what or how much did one contribute does not change this fact.
We all lost
For the last 60 years we’re all dominated by the two big winners U.S and Russia.

right now im thinking

Well to aid you in that thought process:

Finland fought three wars: the Winter War alone against the Soviet Union, the Continuation War with Germany against the Soviet Union, and the Lapland War alone against Germany.

and as I pointed out your statement in bold:

Yeh, we should have allocated a few more thousand troops to the so called war of independence and that would be that.


Hueg go back to your accountancy work

lol

Far too exciting, i enjoy counting rivets as they pop.

Go read a history book. Germany offered Britain peace before and after the invasion of Poland. Before the invasion of France. Before Paris was captured. Before the USSR was invaded.

"Shortly before the outbreak of war, Hitler offered a peace deal to Britain. He got his response even before the British Government had considered it. Maurice Latey, working on the German Service, poured scorn on the offer. The next morning Latey read newspaper headlines announcing: ‘BBC rejects Hitler peace offer'. He recalled: ‘I approached the office in fear and trembling, only to find on my desk a note from my boss congratulating me on my effort.'

Hitler made another offer, after the fall of Paris, with the same result. Sefton Delmer acknowledged the offer on air, and replying: ‘Herr Führer and Reichskanzler, we hurl it right back at you, right in your evil-smelling teeth.' "
http://www.bbc.co.uk/heritage/story/ww2/overseas.shtml

I know, Hitler invaded Russia in September 1942 we declared war on germany in late 1939.

Ive read plenty of history seems that you have not though.

Rudolf Hess, Hitlers deputys' flight to Scotland 1941. Widely believed to be an attempt to broker a peace deal.

I dont think a "history book" quite covers it though harry. It seems everytime i get into a discussion about WWII im the one who ends up providing the history lesson.