WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland

Finland - LOL

Or getting a much needed one...

Believe it or not, you don't know everything about WWII...I guess in reality, no one does.

Allow me to state similar quote: "i hate polish people in England taking our jobs but we do need them".

Oh yeah ?? Haha. Nobody agrees...

eh? Why would you state that?

You just did in the end.


Cos you said I dont know everything about WWII and then you stated that nobody does. But I do however know a lot more than you.

Did what, tell me, you're the teacher here :)

You think you do. I'm simply not interested in getting involved in what always turns into an argument whenever WWII or similar is brought up. I could be bothered to discuss it if people like you didn't turn up thinking you know absolutely everything and only end up causing trouble.

None of this explains why you said this:





AND you argue like a child!

Agree with me


I think that explains it


It always amuses me when people take threads and paste shite out of context to benefit themselves.

Did i ? I agree that trees are green, than the sky is blue...but i never agreed on the "England saved the world", maybe England saved your world, not ours.

Look I cant really be bothered to argue with you, perhaps we can chat about something else at a later date.

Polson good night.

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Good night WB ;)

I think that we did actually and for you to say anything else is damn well disrespectful


Been saving that one have you jock?

What's disrespectul is forgetting that many others fought to death. They brought altogether the final "victory". England didn't save the world, they helped, they're among the so-called "winners". I'm not going to change my mind on that point, don't waste your time.

Good night and nice snowboarding, lucky you :)

Nah, you're losing it. You're arguing things twice...there's no point.



It shouldn't because it's not out of context, you began a sentence with "cos you said". Exactly like a child does in an argument. Did not benefit me in the slightest.



YOU didn't do anything so this "we" is crap. Our grandfathers (mines included) from around the UK (and Allies) did it...remember that when you open your next beer or pour your next glass of wine or whatever you're drinking freely at the moment!

Hope you get fresh snow for tomorrow.
Spij dobrze.

This beacon you speak of did Poland no good when they said to Germany stop or we'll declair war and then did nothing. So big deal they declaired war and watched as Poland waited for British to back them. Even when Polish knew they had been betrayed, they stayed and helped fight. You say "who know what world we would be living in right now", look what ended up happening to Poland, I guess we can tell you.

Carol

We all know what world YOU Live in..
A Little one all of your own.

Even when the facts are put in front of you your like a lil Emu.
Head buried so deep in ********.
You cant see anything else. Youv'e been badly Bainwashed by some dumbass.
Whoever taught you.
If i was you i'd demand my money back and sue the muppet for missrepresentation.

Stop trying to poison other peoples minds.
And go back to sleep.
Mb When you wake up again. Someone else might believe you.

- Carol (that's your first name, isn't it?), facts seem to show that in 1939 the British just were not able to back us up by sending their army directly to Poland. Moreover, to compound the British difficulties, the French, who were much better equipped for helping Poland by direct military action than the British were, didn't send their army to Poland in the first place. All Britain could do was declare war on Germany and stick to it. And unlike anyone else, she did. And that was certainly loyal and friendly towards us. Moreover, the British accepted our soldiers into their own ranks, gave them military equipment. The British aren't to blame for the Yalta agreements either; it's Roosevelt and his American bunch who are. You're American, aren't you? Perhaps it's hard for you to accept the fact that it is the United States that is responsible for the treacherous and cruel sell-out of Poland to the Russians in Yalta.

, etc.

- These insults towards Carol don't appear necessary.

You really are a troll aren't you?

You might want to read slightly better history books: the Nazi invasion of Russia started on June 22 1941. By September 1942 the battle of Stalingrad was in full swing.

Maybe we should have waited to declare war on Germany until we were attacked directly by one of their allies, but in the meantime loan money (at very reasonable rates) to those who were fighting the Nazis, thus making a nice profit and helping to establish ourselves as the worlds first superpower. Would that have been the brave (American ) thing to do?

The truth is in in the numbers.
Eastern front:3,5 million German soldiers with 8000 tanks against 6 million Soviets with 14000 tanks.
Italy front:200000 Germans with 500 tanks against 500000 Angloamericans with 1500 tanks.
Western front:600000 Germans with 1500 tanks against 1.2 million Angloamericans with 4000 tanks.

There is no comparison between eastern and western front.Had the Germans the opportunity to remove from the eastern front just 30% of their forces there,that is 1 million men and 2500 tanks to the Western front,the allied forces would have had simply no chance against them.They would have been kicked to the sea.
Churchill waited for three years before launching attack on Normandy in order to cope with a german army weakened and exhausted from the slaughter in eastern front.

Between 1941-1944 the red army killed or captured over 2.5 million german soldiers while the british army killed and captured maximum 200000 german soldiers.
The weight of the war between 1941-1944 fell almost entirely on Soviet army which suffered extreme losses.1 million Soviet soldiers were killed only in operations in Poland,Hungary and Germany between 1944-1945.The red army lost 8 million soldiers during the war.
In comparison the US had only 300000 soldiers dead and UK about 800000 casualties.
The point is if US had to suffer over 1 million corpses,would it be able to continue the war?Would anybody support such a war?Of course the Soviets could not protest against the slaughtering and this was the advanatge of the totalitarian governements of Hitler and Stalin.They could afford more losses,so they could operate better in front.
The americans had hordes of technicians,economists and personell which counted in detail the soviet losses before and after in order to provide them the right amount of supplies.They did not provide a lot,so that red army becomes extremely powerful but not less than needed to continue being able to kill Germans.

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lets save the arguments, the dates and the fact are here

Isnt that war is all about, tacticts? Its not always about size Southern you should know this!

Yes,because some people accuse the Soviet Union because it did not declare war to Germany between 1939-1941 in order to prepare properly for the war.Churchill himself called the soviet tactique cunning and efficient.The Molotov-Ribbentropp pact was maybe a cold treaty about which many complained but it helped the red army enormously.Churchill admited it openly and gave right to Russians for signing it although it was against the interests of Great Britain by the time it was signed.

Opposite to that the Munich pact was a great failure and all english historians admit it.

You are right I may have come down on Britian to hard. I get upset when I hear negative on Poland's role downplayed. Ok with that said, I'm sorry Brits didn't mean to take it out on you. Next, I can accept the USA screw up by listening to Stalin. Go to the Roosevelt Presidential library and read the actual memo's. USA can't have the sell out placed on them. Now Stalin, look at Churchill and Rossevelts telegrams when they wanted to go help Poland. It was Stalins threats that got them to back down. How can we blame USA when Russians and Germans were killing Poles. USA and Britian did not attack Poland. The sellout was to appease Stalin and yes maybe if communication was clearer between Roosevelt and Churchill things wouldn't have ended the way they did. It was Churchill that said he was not going to continue talks with Stalin and shut the door. They were both wrong. Carol

You saved world from Nazism?!? Your great nation?!? God to save your Queen?!?

Batter cover yourself with your ears! (Bolje se pokri ušima!)

Now, I will show you what are words ... in time when British diplomats, together with Germans (again) and Turks (again) trying to impose their rule on Balkan

Thank you Christ for all Serbian sufferings. Thank you!!! Thank you because in your greatness you learned us, that we are now capable to recognize false friends and Brits of England as first among them.

You Englismans don`t care for Europe! Slavs you consider as sub-people and good just as cannon fodders! You profit when we suffer! You calculate future for your children when our children are in pain! Your government ride with mujaheedines, no matter what old low said `you would share destine of those with whom you ride`.

Do whatever you want Brits, but as apostle Poul said: `you won`t do it forever`. No, you won`t. You are now open enemy of Serbs and that is by your will.

Strange how the Serbs are always surrounded by enemies and people who hate them. I wonder if it has anything to do with their delightful habit of killing innocent civilians whenever possible and then running away when faced with a real army.