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ConstantineK
Edited by: ConstantineK  May 23, 07, 12:35  #61

Quoting: Amathyst
Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Yeah....Germans shake in their boots whenever they think of Poland!


Hey, what goes around comes around you Germans would do well to remember that - you pi*sed off half the world no so long ago and I dont think people are in a hurry to forget


Hey, hey guys they couldnt, evryone knows that only RUSSIANS can p*ss upright!!!!! ;-))))

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Grzegorz_
  May 23, 07, 12:43  #62

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Now you want me to be a Pole too?


I would rather cut off my own dick.


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Patrycja19
  May 23, 07, 12:44  #63

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Most people when asked about their most famous people would list world wide renowned scientists, inventors, poets....not third class sportsmen who nobody outside knows (and who often also start for foreign countries)...:)

So pathetic!


well if hitler didnt kill them off.

of course you justify these killings right? so it would be ok someday to come to
germany and just uproot your people and throw your educated people into ovens
and act all uncivilized by making them experiments and gassing them right :)

you dont know why you hate polish people , your conditioned to hate them because of what?? your grandfather didnt get to gas someone and was taken away to jail?
or because your uncle forgot to cover his tracks for his part in the mass killings?

what bratworst boy? what is it that makes you hate so much? so you can come in
here and be all bad with your chest hairs sticking out? it makes me sick that you
would feel that way when are you going to dunk yourself into the human tank ?


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Grzegorz_
  May 23, 07, 13:03  #64

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
PS: Most people when asked about their most famous people would list world wide renowned scientists, inventors


Trash, If you need that knowledge so much then check who invented vitamines or created the oil industry.


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 13:42  #65

Quoting: Patrycja19
well if hitler didnt kill them off.


Oh Pat...how long will you use Hitler as apology for continually underachieve?
It seems always someone else to be who opresses the poor Poles...if it is not Germany then it's Russia or both...

Poor victimized Poles!

(And yes Grandpa and Granduncles marched through Poland...two times! LOL)


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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  May 23, 07, 13:55  #66

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
My grandma told me how all those germans in Silesia always knew who was german and who was polish! No mingling, no guessing!
Silesia was once german in case you should have forgotten that...



For a short time only, in case you should have forgotten. You got one thing right; your family were Germans from Silesia. Not Silesians.

Quoting: Polanglik
Wasn't Liberace a Pole ...?, and someone once told me that Charles Bronson had Polish roots.


Yes he was. As for Charles Bronson, I think he had Lithuanian roots, although I also heard that his parents were polish immigrants.


As for what nationality was Copernicus... Copernicus was living in the territory of Polish Kingdom, he was a subject of a Polish King, many times very vividly expressed his standpoint when it came to polish German conflicts (he as well as his family actively participated in defense of Polish cities against German Teutonic Knights - for example he was in command during the defense of Polish castle in Olsztyn in 1521), almost all scientist and astronomers of his time considered him to be a polish astronomer..... etc... Is this enough Bratwurst?

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
(And yes Grandpa and Granduncles marched through Poland...two times! LOL)


My Greatgrandfather and grandpa kicked back germans twice out of Poland... that's a tie I guess. LOL


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 14:02  #67

Sorbs live in german territory...doesn't make them of german stock!

You can't convert to another heritage....regardless the politic environment of your time!

But hey....since even athlets who are naturalised aussies and swim for the aussie team get noted as polish achievements then one should not wonder...

I better not start with achievments all over the world who have german roots even if the passport has changed...

...what a joke!


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Amathyst
  May 23, 07, 14:05  #68

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
(And yes Grandpa and Granduncles marched through Poland...two times! LOL)


Yes they may have, but they scurried out like dirty rats jumping from a sinking ship....Now aint that something to proud of


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 14:06  #69

PS: Arthur Schopenhauer from Danzig and Immanuel Kant from Königsberg lived in what is now polish or russian...they were still Germans!


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 14:08  #70

Quoting: Amathyst


Yes they may have, but they scurried out like dirty rats jumping from a sinking ship


'snicker*


I dunno...just how long scurried the Polacks as the mighty Wehrmacht came visiting? 3 Weeks?
And you needed the whole world to say good bye again...and the help of your good friends , the Russians...who didn't want to leave for decades either...LOL


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Matyjasz
  May 23, 07, 14:11  #71

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
You can't convert to another heritage....regardless the politic environment of your time!



Give me your definition of the word heritage and then we can talk further.


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 14:15  #72

The people you belong to...?


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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  May 23, 07, 14:16  #73

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
I dunno...just how long scurried the Polacks as the mighty Wehrmacht came visiting? 3 Weeks?
And you needed the whole world to say good bye again...and the help of your good friends , the Russians...who didn't want to leave for decades either...LOL


And they left even quicker. :)
Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
PS: Arthur Schopenhauer from Danzig and Immanuel Kant from Königsberg lived in what is now polish or russian...they were still Germans!


Copernicus not only lived in what is now Poland, but he actually lived in Kingdom of Poland. If he was so germanic, than why he was standing on the side of Kingdom of Poland fighting against Germans and why did he oath allegiance to polish King? And also I bet you know better that people that actually knew him? LOL


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 14:19  #74

Torun even was called once Thorn...it was German too!

He didn't fight because of belonging to the Poles but for preferrend political reasons!
You say more or less his political stance decides about his heritage...crap!


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Matyjasz
  May 23, 07, 14:21  #75

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
The people you belong to...?



So do you think that by fighting Germans on polish side he was in some strange and awkward way trying to highlight his affiliation to German nation? :))

And I thought that women are hard to understand. :)


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 14:24  #76

He was born in Thorn and died in Frauenburg...he was born into a german family and spoke and wrote german...facts!

That you Poles now want to claim him is not so surprising...why not Schopenhauer too?


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Amathyst
  May 23, 07, 14:26  #77

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
'snicker*


I prefer a twix actually but never mind

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
I dunno


Well I know one thing - my father had the pleasure of guarding at Spandau Prison and said that Hess cried like a baby....hmmm laughable....


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Matyjasz
  May 23, 07, 14:27  #78

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Torun even was called once Thorn...it was German too!



And Berlin was set up by Slavs, and? At that time Toruñ was Polish city. Besides Copernicus father as well as his grandfather came from Kraków. :)


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Amathyst
  May 23, 07, 14:30  #79

Quoting: Matyjasz
So do you think that by fighting Germans on polish side he was in some strange and awkward way trying to highlight his affiliation to German nation? :))

And I thought that women are hard to understand. :)


Honey you are brillian in fact a genius...:)


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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  May 23, 07, 14:38  #80

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
He was born in Thorn and died in Frauenburg...he was born into a german family and spoke and wrote german...facts!



His mother was German, but his father wasn't. And as far as his works being written in German and Latin... At that time German language had the same position in science as english has now. Although a lot of Polish scientist publish their works in English I doubt they consider themselves English. :)

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
That you Poles now want to claim him is not so surprising...why not Schopenhauer too?


You Germans would never do such a despicable thing now wouldn’t you? Oh wait a minute, what was that about naming Mozart, who definitely was Austrian, in "top 10 most famous Germans" list? LOL


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Matyjasz
  May 23, 07, 14:45  #81

Quoting: Amathyst
Honey you are brillian in fact a genius...:)



Hehe.. Thank you. And although the place where I live 100 years ago was German I'm definitely Polish. :)


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 14:48  #82

Austrians???

Excuse me but they are purely of german stock...like most Swiss to btw...
Those borders are entirely political!

(We Prussians never liked those Berg-Germanen anyway...:)

>>"Hehe.. Thank you. And although the place where I live 100 years ago was German I'm definitely Polish. :)"<<

Exactly...the goverment who rules you doesn't decide about your heritage.
Just because someone lives/lived in a territory which changed hands often over the time doesn't make him change his heritage too....that is stupid!


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 14:50  #83

PS: Didn't took Austria Krakau once?


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TheKruk
  May 23, 07, 14:58  #84

I didn't want to get into it but if you look at the list of Polish-Americans of reknown it is staggering even if you limit it to parents born in Poland. Check wikipedia for the list.
Why let Bratwurst Boy rattle your cage everybody? The damage the German people have done to the world will always outweigh the potential good they will do, and all the beauty they have done or will do will always be marred by what one despicable generation did . Then you hear "oh we were just following orders" the most notorious explanation for murder. Like it acquits you for opening the gas valve or firing the pistol into the back of someones head.

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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 14:58  #85

Okay...let's see:

Kopernikus was born in the Hanse town Thorn which was shortly before still german.
His mother was german. His uncle was the Bishop from Ermland (german).
His grand-grandfather came from Koppernigk/lower Silesia.

(Koppernigk = Kopernikus)

He used at home and at work german and latin.
He died in Frauenburg.

AND WHAT EXACTLY MAKES HIM POLISH???


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 15:01  #86

>>"he damage the German people have done to the world will always outweigh the potential good they will do, and all the beauty they have done or will do will always be marred by what one despicable generation did"<<

ROFL

Look around you...try never to read a book written by a German, try never to listen to music composed by a German, try never to use a machine invented by Germans...TRY!

:)


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Matyjasz
  May 23, 07, 15:07  #87

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Exactly...the goverment who rules you doesn't decide about your heritage.
Just because someone lives/lived in a territory which changed hands often over the time doesn't make him change his heritage too....that is stupid!



And you still fail to understand the main point. Ok, lets try it in a different way. In this thread as a very interesting fact I mentioned that Erich von Manstein roots were definitely Polish. His real name was von Lewinski. Still he didn’t had problems with creating the plan of invasion on Poland. Let’s take another very interesting fact. General Anders is considered to be a polish WWII hero. Although his family were polonized Germans he was fighting on the polish side in this conflict. He freely decided that his heritage, so as you written above “the people he felt he was belonging to”, was Polish. Just like Manstein decided that although his polish blood running through his veins he was definitely German. So did Copernicus. Nobody forced him to make an oath to polish king, nor to fight Germans on Polish side. He did it freely. Can there be a more significant way to show where you belong to than this?


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 15:09  #88

Either you are German or Polish...it's not a matter of choosing like religion or a party...


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Matyjasz
  May 23, 07, 15:10  #89

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Either you are German or Polish...it's not a matter of choosing like religion or a party...


So now you are trying to deny your words? Did your definition of heritage changed suddenly?

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
The people you belong to...?



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Grzegorz_
  May 23, 07, 15:14  #90

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy


Dude, you are a clown... I am no doubt superior to you and this is so obvious for everyone here that I don't have to prove anything...

Matyjasz don't waste your time...


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