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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 15:14  #91

What?

I didn't deny anything....the people you belong to defines your heritage.
And it is nothing you have influence over...you are born into it, you can't change it.

If a Pole decides to be German he must have grown up with german culture, german language, german customs...he must feel belonging to the german people even if he till now lived in Poland under polish rule.

The same goes also for the other way around...so cases like Manstein or Anders are not rar as the borders between our countries switched often.


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TheKruk
  May 23, 07, 15:20  #92

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Look around you...try never to read a book written by a German, try never to listen to music composed by a German, try never to use a machine invented by Germans...TRY!

Its actually quite easy, I will say I am glad Mozart was Austrian though. Ah and how many machines were invented by German Jews? And can Germany claim them or more appropriate would they want to be claimed as German?

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TheKruk
  May 23, 07, 15:27  #93

So you can't even claim your greatest hero by your previous logic!!
I believe that is game set and match- Polska. Do widzenia

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Bratwurst Boy
  May 23, 07, 15:32  #94

Quoting: TheKruk
So you can't even claim your greatest hero by your previous logic!!
I believe that is game set and match- Polska. Do widzenia


Huh?

You are a bit mysterious here...

Why do you think Austrians wanted the Anschluß? Austrians are as german as Rhinelander, Bavarians or Prussians...what is your problem?


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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  May 23, 07, 16:08  #95

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Matyjasz don't waste your time...



Just one more post before i go back to study Greg... :)

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
I didn't deny anything....the people you belong to defines your heritage.
And it is nothing you have influence over...you are born into it, you can't change it.

If a Pole decides to be German he must have grown up with german culture, german language, german customs...he must feel belonging to the german people even if he till now lived in Poland under polish rule.



So according to you the territory of polish Kingdom didn't give Copernicus enough opportunities to get in touch with polish culture, language, and customs... Interesting. :)

Bare in mind that Copernicus grandfather as well as his father was born in Kraków. Hardly a German city, wouldn't you agree? :) Copernicus had experienced both cultures, and made his decision. Can we consider it just only a political stance? If we would than it wouldn't reflect well on his attitude to his alleged German heritage, wouldn't it?


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krysia
  May 24, 07, 08:32  #96

Count Casimir Pulaski—was a young Polish soldier who valued freedom so much that he left his partitioned nation of Poland to come to America to fight in the Revolutionary War against the British. He was fatally wounded at the battle of Savannah in 1779

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ConstantineK
  May 24, 07, 09:35  #97

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
And you needed the whole world to say good bye again...and the help of your good friends , the Russians...who didn't want to leave for decades either...LOL



well, well, well do you have some problems with russians? i don't like poles, they are so annoying, but germans...fuhhh, do you know that cherchill suggested to castrate all germans men after WWII?

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FISZ
  May 24, 07, 09:38  #98

Bratwurst? Yuk...He must really be from Wisconsin USA :) He speaks like an American.


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Grzegorz_
  May 24, 07, 09:39  #99

Quoting: ConstantineK
i don't like poles, they are so annoying, but germans...fuhhh



The same I could say... Russians suck, but Germans... as bad as It sounds they shouldn't be counted as homo sapiens...


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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  May 24, 07, 09:45  #100

way off topic but.....
the Russians. They don't even know how to act normally in their own military. They beat each other up LOL duh....

These guys are idiots :)


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Patrycja19
  May 24, 07, 09:48  #101

Quoting: ConstantineK
do you know that cherchill suggested to castrate all germans men after WWII?


wow, talk about stopping a population. he could have beat loraina bobbit to the
punch.


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FISZ
  May 24, 07, 09:51  #102

Wasn't Hitler partially castrated?


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Patrycja19
  May 24, 07, 09:52  #103

so loraina bobbit was in germany after all lol..


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 07, 10:04  #104

Quoting: ConstantineK
do you know that cherchill suggested to castrate all germans men after WWII?


Yeah...and look where the Brits are today...hasbeens stuck with lot's of Poles! :)


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 07, 10:05  #105

Quoting: Grzegorz_
The same I could say... Russians suck, but Germans... as bad as It sounds they shouldn't be counted as homo sapiens...


Sub humans???

ROFL


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 07, 10:06  #106

Quoting: FISZ
Wasn't Hitler partially castrated?


Even with only one ball he run you Poles over...what does it say about you?


You are so funny! :)


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Grzegorz_
  May 24, 07, 10:14  #107

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Sub humans???


Well, you said that, but...


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Patrycja19
  May 24, 07, 10:17  #108

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Yeah...and look where the Brits are today...hasbeens stuck with lot's of Poles! :)


whats that got to do with being castrated? you pulling at straws now?

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Sub humans???

ROFL


my grandmother in law said that hitler was nuts, she talked about what happened
and because of him they lost everything, and people were scared they would
die if they didnt do what he said, and many did, so I dont have problems with those
who actually did help , but those who consider themselfs nazi should be
castrated. you cant deny bratboy that what happened was the most sickest part
of history, and hiding behind all the jokes and putdowns wont change history and
the fact that people still live with the horrors ( older generations) and it cant be
justified.

as neither can the russian part in it. but at least german govt is paying their dues.
it wont take it away though.


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 07, 10:25  #109

Hey...it's not me who is hiding behind this war!
It's not me who is using what happened for all kinds of apologies for all what did go/does go/will further go wrong.
It's not me who uses another people still as a scapegoat for all problems Poles have.
It's not me who vote for a nutty government who uses hostility against the neighbour
as a means to cling to power.

We Germans have all reasons to be proud of what we achieved after the war and where we stand right now...rich, between the top nations, respected...we don't have to hide behind the war!


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Patrycja19
  May 24, 07, 10:28  #110

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Hey...it's not me who is hiding behind this war!


no but your aiming your hostility at them just as much. for what?

making fun, only shows your no better and that doesnt make you more the
man.


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Grzegorz_
  May 24, 07, 10:34  #111

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
We Germans have all reasons to be proud of what we achieved after the war and where we stand right now...rich, between the top nations,


You are "rich" (rather average) only because after WW2 Yanks needed their "own Germans" against the Soviets, so they pumped the money in you.
Quoting: Bratwurst Boy



[quote=Bratwurst Boy]respected...


LOL ! Even Woomps **** on you. Even a member of their government admitted that 2 or 3 years ago.


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 07, 10:37  #112

Erm...compared to Poles even Woomps are more respected!

Right now whole Europe laughs about your potatoe heads...LOL


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Grzegorz_
  May 24, 07, 10:43  #113

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy


Dude, If you want to compare Poles and Germans in similar conditions, take East Germany after WW2, after the west Germany pumped there over a trillion EUR (and that's half the population of Poland) these areas looks little better than Poland, quite the same as the Czech Republic... Here your "superiority" ends...

I'm really not happy to say that, but you people are scum - lazy, stupid and stinking... just look at yorself... you people are simply... disgusting... most of the world knows that.


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BubbaWoo
  May 24, 07, 10:45  #114

no spitting please

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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 07, 10:46  #115

Some facts about "being respected" just for you Greg:

999today.com/travel/news/story/3821.html

Germany comes in second best world wide...can't see a trace of Poland...wonder why???

"...Anholt believes Germany will become a serious contender for the top spot in future NBIs.

He said: "Germany already has a positive international image with particular respect for its governance, economy and popular brands, such as Audi, Siemens, Braun and Volkswagen..."


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 07, 10:50  #116

Apropos East-Germany....Now Germany did it again...a second Wirtschaftswunder like after the war.

Do you know how the land around Dresden is called already? Saxony valley because of their growing number of high-tech firms!

Some eastern Länder are already ahead of some western Länder...:)

Lazy and stinking, right?

Sour grapes...so bitter and jealeous! I LOVE IT!


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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  May 24, 07, 10:53  #117

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
economy and popular brands, such as Audi, Siemens, Braun and Volkswagen...


So that's because of companies, which often weren't even created by Germans and often aren't run by Germans...

Let's be honest, for most of Europe both Poles and Germans suck, but we suck because we "steal their jobs", you suck because you simply are... disgusting by nature... How you even dare compare yourself to us ?? I wouldn't say that If you didn't force me but you people are simply living s*it.


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Grzegorz_
  May 24, 07, 10:55  #118

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
a second Wirtschaftswunder


Yeah... with 1% GDP growth...


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Bratwurst Boy
  May 24, 07, 10:58  #119

Quoting: Grzegorz_
So that's because of companies, which often were even created by Germans and often aren't run by Germans...


Yes "MADE IN GERMANY", that label alone is selling!

"Made in Poland"...hmmm....no go....sorry :)

And why did you left out this:

"...He said: "Germany already has a positive international image with particular respect for its governance, economy ...."

tsk, tsk, tsk


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Matyjasz
  May 30, 07, 16:24  #120

OK, so lets get back to the topic. Basically it's extremely hard for a non-westerner to be famous in the West. There are definitely many Poles worth knowing that are well known for people that are interested in a particular science, literature or music discipline, but are they known outside of this circle? I'm not sure. Have you heard about:
- Napoleon Cybulski (the discoverer of adrenalin),
-Kazimierz Funk (the discoverer of vitamins),
-Ludwik Hirszfeld (he established the foundation of knowledge of human blood types),
- Ignacy Łukasiewicz (he developed a product called “nafta” kerosene (1852); invented the petroleum lamp, established the world’s first oil “mine”, built the first refinery in Ulaszowice near Jaslo, replaced hand mining with drilling machinery and steam power),
- Julian Ochorowicz (he forecasted correctly the future technique of transmitting moving pictures so he can be said to have been one of the first to conceive the idea of television),
-Kazimierz Proszyński (he built one of the first cinema cameras in the world. This pleograph, or apparatus for taking photographs and projecting pictures, was built before the Lumiere Brothers lodged their patent. Proszynski also made the first pocket film-camera and devised a method of synchronizing sound and film tracks),
-Abraham Stern (he demonstrated the “first calculating machine in the world which could perform the four basic arithmetical processes and extract roots),
- Jan Szczepanik (he patented many important inventions which were of use in textile machinery, electric television, color photography and films, and devised a method for the optical registration of sound),
- Alexander Wolszczan ( he was the forst man to discovere an extrasolar planet),
-Ludwik Łazarz Zamenhof (the creator of esperanto),
-Stefan Drzewiecki ( His disertation, “Theorie generale de l’helice” (1920), was honored by the French Academy of Science as a fundamental work in the development of modern propellers),
-Jan Śniadecki (his works on the possibilities of a theory of probability were of a pioneer nature),
-Michał Sędziwoj ( He was the first man in history of chemistry to describe oxygen – “the food of life, which exists in the air”. He advanced the theory of combustion and breathing),
-Kazimierz Siemanowicz ( he was the first to conceive the possibility of a multiple-stage rocket and of rocket batteries. May be considered a precursor of space flight),
- Stanisław Marcin Ulam ( known for his activities in Manhattan Project (1942-1947) that lead to the creation of nuclear weapons in Los Alamos)
- Paweł Włodkowic ( as early as the beginning of the 15th century he strongly supported the idea of conciliarism and pioneered the notion of peaceful coexistence among nations — a forerunner of modern theories of human rights), etc etc....

Aside from scientist there are also great Polish strategist like Hetman Koniecpolski ( the concorere of Gustavus Adolphus), Hetman Żółkiewski ( he managed something Hitler dreamed of, he set his foot In Moscow), Jan Karol Chodkiewicz ( in almost every military school the cadets are being thought about his magnificent victory over Swedes at Kircholm) or Jan III Sobieski ( the only "modern" man that has a star constellation named after him), etc...



Music? Szymanowski, Wieniawski, Paderewski, Rubinstein, etc.. Film? Wajda, Kieślowski, Jerzy Kawalerowicz - people that inspired the likes of Tarantino, Lynch or Scorsese... and many many more...

The truth is that the west was generally ignorant about the eastern part of Europe for a very long time. Would you know about Teodor Józef Konrad Korzeniowski (aka Joseph Conrad), Maria Skłodoska-Curie or Roman Polański if they would stay in Poland rather than go abroad? I doubt it.

Just because one haven’t heard about those people, doesn’t mean that they aren’t worth knowing about. There is still an enormous world of polish literature to be discovered by the westerners: Mickiewicz, Słowacki, Prus, Sienkiewicz, etc... Maybe in a few years time those names will stop being anonymous for you? I surely hope so. Maybe the computer game "The Witcher" in a short time will make Sapkowski the most known polish writer? Who know who knows...I surely hope so. :)


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