What do you think about what the Kaczynskis say about Germans ?

LoL okay so I see there will never be an end to this topic with us ;)

I ate something i don't know what it's called, but it's the kind of quick preparation food, but it was quite good. I'm waiting for next week, I will be in Poland and i will be able to eat all the pierogi i want ! I love them ! LoL ;)

I worked in a farm this morning and i think i should go to bed now, because i don't want to get up at noon tomorrow ! ;)

Dobra noc !

PS : the Poles are modern ;) i was just talking about horunPoland and his homophobia.

Polson, as for so-called 'homophobia' in Poland. - In Poland, many people object to the gay 'parades,' to the propagation of homosexuality in schools, and to the attempts to 'convert' to one's 'sexual orientation.' Many Poles don't care who sleeps with whom, as long as it is not advertised noisily. They regard - perhaps rightly? - the noisy advertising as abhorrent and shameless.

Now why wouldn't this attitude be modern?

You seem to suggest that you're a tolerant guy. Are you, really? - You seem to have no tolerance for the aforementioned attitude.

You're a lucky guy - you can go to Poland soon and have all the Polish food you want. Have a good time there.
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Many people object to that in the US as well. I understand why there are parades (awareness, visiblity), but even a good friend of mine who is gay, feels that the parades generally don't help towards acceptance. It tends to do the opposite.

I think showing that gay people are more like straight folks (have good jobs, families, ect) would improve tolerance.

re: even a good friend of mine who is gay, feels that the parades generally don't help towards acceptance. It tends to do the opposite

- An excellent point, Shopgirl. I've met homosexual folks in Poland who think exactly as your friend does.

I wonder how would both heterosexual and homosexual people react if some heterosexual people carried out noisy and explicit 'hetero pride parades'?
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PS. Shopgirl, hello! Good day, sunshine! Thanks for all your warm words in previous posts. Of course, I'll contact you through your new e-mail re I-Ching and more. I hope you contact me as well. And I know that you understand me on this forum. Thanks for that. You're the sweetest of sweeties. :)

Hetero pride parade? I like that! Lets do it!

puzzler is an angel!!!!! and you to ola

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Hey, espana. Good to see you again. Where have you been? Banned perhaps? I hope not. Was it you who used 'zion' as nick in the meantime?

So the Spanish opposition leader thanked Kaczynskis for their stand at the last EU summit, because thanks to Poland Spain will have more votes than she would have had if the new weighing votes system had been in place.
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re: Hetero pride parade? I like that! Lets do it!

Ola, how about if just you and me did it, e.g. in my place?
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no why?

Just a similar style of writing, quite unlike that of the real zion (if I may call him so).
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zion=angola +mulato+jew+living in poland = not happy

hey I remember last winter, I sent some Q-tips to Poland

are you the same person?

If so why are you busting everybodys balls?

I went out of my way to help you

Does your first intial start with an E???

keep it up

Do you mean zion is unhappy in Poland? I've thought he loves Poland; that's what he seemed to suggest in his posts.

re: hey I remember last winter

Sledz, are you addressing me, Puzzler?

did you get a box from chicago?

re: did you get a box from chicago?

- Not even one tiny box on the ears. And I lived there many years. (The rhyme unintended.)

How about you, sledz, do you steal 'alot' or just 'alilbit'?
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nope , I just tried to help someone out

guess it wasnt you?

but I would if you needed something thats the kinda guy I am

I didn't know that there was a "propagation" of homosexality and "conversions" ? It sounds weird because when gays want to do a parade, I saw some cities who refused, so how they do to propagate or convert people ? Actually, if what you say is true ("propagation in schools" and changing the sexual's orientation, even if i don't know if it can be changed...), so yeah i agree, it's not really acceptable, but is it really true, or is it one of the stupid speech of Giertych...LoL i don't know if you support him, but he's maybe worst than the 2 bros ;) LoL



Yes i know !! I wish i was already there, but i have to wait until next Friday...grrrr ! LoL
We have some remaining pierogi at home, so when we will be there, we will buy more !

Polson, also Roman Giertych has been demonised by the media hacks, not only in Poland, but all over Europe. There are, for example, dripping-with-hateful-venom attacks against him by the Italian hacks.

And his father Maciej has been demonised by the EU Parliament itself. Especially its German members scolded him angrily for - guess what? - his alleged 'antisemitism.'

Thing is our present government is disliked by the power circles in Europe for its caring for what all other European countries care for - the national interest. Of all the EU countries, 'East Europeans' have no right to do that; they are expected to shut up, obey, and be grateful for being EU members.

Roman is not a very brainy guy, but he is nothing compared to your Le Pen and dude not so long ago was in the 2nd round of presidential elections, wasn't he ?

re: Roman is not a very brainy guy

- Why not, Greg? I hear people saying this, but not giving any clear reasons. So do you know the clear reasons?

Cheers.
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LoL Grzegorz_ yeah, we have Le Pen, but i have nothing to see with the 2nd round of the presidential (in 2002) because i couldn't vote. ;)



Maybe he has been demonised, but i think you can't say he's a very nice person by being even a little "anti-semitic", and by wanting Polish schools to stop reading books of Goethe or Sienkiewicz, but to prefer more "Christian" ones, or i don't remember what. It's a good point that his suggestions are rarely taken seriously but he's...dangerous ! LoL ;)

re: i think you can't say he's a very nice person by being even a little "anti-semitic"

- Well, but is he? By the way, would you also say it's not a very nice person one who is even a little Polonophobic?

re: by wanting Polish schools to stop reading books of Goethe or Sienkiewicz

- This has been blown out of proportion by the media hacks, I'm afraid. (Notice how they spread hatred, set people against each other.) In reality, Mr Giertych postulated withdrawing all the books that are difficult to read, and replacing them with easy-reads. and that's what he should be perhaps criticised for - for going to easy on the students. But maybe he's right? Such 'Faust' by Goethe, which was on the school readings list in Poland through all the communist era, can be dropped off, not because it's German (Goethe, by the way, wasn't a Polonophobe), but because it's to hard to get through by high school students nowadays. And the sole Polish translation, by Konopka, seems outdated already. By the way, are German high school kids forced to read 'Pan Tadeusz' by Mickiewicz? Do English or French kids are forced to read 'Faust' by Goethe or even 'Hamlet' by Shakespeare?

re: but to prefer more "Christian" ones

- What's wrong with Christian literature? After all, Poland is still a Christian nation.

re: or i don't remember what

- No, you don't, and it shows.
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LoL Puzzler ;)

Well, who is Polonophobic ?? Not me, i'm sure of it :p But yes the person who is even a little Polonophobic is quite bad. ;)

I have anything against Christianity but i think it's a personnal thing, you cannot put Christian things all day long in everything. Religion, for me, is a personal matter. We do believe in god, or we don't. Laicity is good because each one has the choice to believe in god or not. By the way, there is something i'd like to know : is Poland a laic country ?

That's all for now ;)

more than anybody likes to admit

Okay thanks ;)

aren't you going to visit soon - you will have the first hand experiance when there. It is difficult to learn about a country from mostly peronal opinions which are quite prevelant on this forum.

No i've been in Poland a lot !! My mom is Polish, I'm 19, so i think i've been in Poland like 19 times ! LoL :p actually i try to go there each year. Last time i was there, it was in December, i spent Christmas and the "Happy New Year" in Zakopane ;) It was nice !!

And sorry, yes i'm going there soon ;) next Friday, to the North-West, to the sea ;)

Polson, no, you're certainly not Polonophobic, sunny. Have a good holiday in Poland.
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