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Do you think your love is true?


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Bartolome
  Apr 6, 07, 17:12  #61

Quoting: Arien
someone else will agree with me too.

Damn, I wish it was some decent woman


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Arien
  Apr 6, 07, 17:17  #62

See? You've just said that you wished, which means you're still alive man.


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Bartolome
  Apr 6, 07, 17:37  #63

Heh, perhaps


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pingwin
  Apr 7, 07, 00:32  #64

Quoting: Arien
Thank you.

Quoting: audrey
and if we've helped a little then my day today has not been wasted



No, Arien Thank You!! You are an angel in disguise. Thank you for caring and sharing. It mean a lot to me. I totally agree with Audrey and I believe that is what we are here for to help one another in this book of life. <HUG>


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RazZ
Edited by: RazZ  Apr 7, 07, 02:33  #65

Quoting: Arien
I disagree with Razz and Heugel though, your first love doesn't have to be true, because it has to be a mutual feeling for real


sorry mate i have to disagree with ya, what ever the outcome is (first love) you'll always think about it, you'll always speak about it ( not in front of your new love, cos you dont want her to kick your ar$e) yeah it might be true to some and then it might not. it depends on the way the love was.

Quoting: sapphire
maybe you are too young to have had more than one true love


yeah maybe or maybe not, it depends on the maturity of the person. with all due respect there are people who does believe in first is true love, im one of them.

but anyway im not into love now, my entire concentration is on how to make money and more money,(need to get back at some people )


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RazZ
  Apr 7, 07, 02:35  #66

Quoting: pingwin


My deepest condolence to you sweetie.


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LoneStranger
  Apr 7, 07, 03:25  #67

Quoting: Ranj
If they are not together it doesn't necessarily mean their love isn't true.

If they love each other, then why will they not want to be together?

If their love is pure, then I believe it is true love.

When making bubbles...many of them blow up before even being a bubble... only those survive which can handle all its dimensions, to all the attributes of the atmosphere.

I believe that true love can only occur once. Because the light of God is one... and all the rays within are found only one of their kind and unique. Taking this clue for nature (like a spectrum), we can try to conceive the meaning of love.

God is the unltimate and eternal love. The love between a man and a woman is one of the ray (in my suggestion, it resembles the Red Ray)... this ray is only one, powerful and pure. It is also eternal.

Love is never a nonsence...and life has no end. If we think with the material perspective, then we will find incomplete answers. A complete human is made up of the material and spiritual.

To have love in the heart, I think, we must first purify the heart. In a pure heart, the light of God decends... in that light is hidden, the peace and joy of all the worlds . Love being one of the most beautiful gifts, and an important attribute of God. Love without boundaries, without the barrier of religion-race or region.

Regarding some people, who love the someone whole heartedly, and find failure: I would say, 'Maybe this love wasn't true' (my personal opinion). If you loved the person, and she didnt care for your love, or left you for anyone esle (or any other reason she felt more important)... then how come she was the right choice?
A pure heart, which REALISES and RECOGNISES love will only go towards another TRUE HEART. A heart that is also pure, a heart that knows the value of love. A heart that satisfies and completes you and your being.
It should fit in, in the most simple and logical way. She might not be the worlds most beautiful woman... but physical beauty have never truly been the component of true love. Neither in the man, nor in the woman's case.

All my words might seem too complicated. But its not actually.

I read one book, so I will share the story in brief :

There was a very rich and wise man...but he could never get sleep. He tried all books, medicines, phsycriatists, doctors....but only had dissappointment. No sleep.
Oneday he saw a poor old labour, sleeping under a tree using a brick as his pillow. Such sleep the rich man never had even on his most luxurious cussioned bed! The rich man was shocked, surprised!
Next day he asked the labour for the secret of his sleep. The labour replied, 'It comes through the a peaceful heart...the logic behind it is as simple as my sleep. And your logic behind sleep is as simple as your sleep.'

So I guess... just relax...and trust in the eternal light... PEACE always takes birth in the ARMS OF MARY. ... remember this.

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LoneStranger
  Apr 7, 07, 03:27  #68

Quoting: pingwin
pingwin

lovely comments

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szarlotka
  Apr 7, 07, 04:09  #69

Quoting: witek
love always fades with time and the man and women stay with each other because they accustomed to each other


25 years of marriage in 10 days time. I love her more now than ever. There have been ups and downs and like very successful marriage you both have to work at it. We all change as we grow older. Adapting to that fact is difficult but ultimately rewarding


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szarlotka
  Apr 7, 07, 04:10  #70

Quoting: pingwin
pingwin


I agree with LS. Your comments are indeed lovely (and wise).


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RazZ
  Apr 7, 07, 04:12  #71

Quoting: LoneStranger
Regarding some people, who love the someone whole heartedly, and find failure: I would say, 'Maybe this love wasn't true' (my personal opinion). If you loved the person, and she didnt care for your love, or left you for anyone esle (or any other reason she felt more important)... then how come she was the right choice?


a failure in true love doesnt mean that it wasnt true love. love is Sacrificing your happiness and visa versa. even if it means letting it go from them to be happy.
to some true love can be both ways and one way, for some. sometime people go for person that they love in a hurry that they cant see the person who loves them.


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LoneStranger
  Apr 7, 07, 05:54  #72

Quoting: RazZ
RazZ

Firstly: I understand your feelings and respect them. I do not want to hurt any of your sentiments knowing or unknowingly. Please accept my apologies if any of my comments have made you feel uncomfortable in any way.

Secondly: I still believe that the option of choice has alot to do with the mind, soul and heart of the person (the one who is choosing). Your capacity/taste to choose comes from within you. It says alot about the person's personality, of the state of his/her mind and heart at that time. It speaks of the way the person thinks and his/her mind behaves. It also gives an indication of the depth of the heart - and its realisation of true love.
Almost everyone you ask have fallen in love (in their own opinion), and mostly failed or broke apart...or seperated with understanding. This, in my view, cannot be love - but it is just a form of Lust.
My reason: In all colors of love, one this is always constant, and that is the fact of 'Love Being Eternal'.
Take for example:-
1. A child's love towards his/her parents. And the parent's love towards their child. This love is only pure when it is eternal... and the bond....like the nature of love.... is eternal and inseperable. Time is not a factor.
You can find uncomprehensive impure/toxic examples into this relationship. But those are, as said 'TOXIC'. Whatever be the size of toxic - it is always toxic.

2. God's love for humans. It is also eternal. His Prophets and Messengers come in intervals eternally. The Creator and Creation's relationship is the most beautiful relationship. Beyond any ALPHA...and Beyond and OMEGA.

3. Human's love for God. A true lover (human) knows very well... that this love is eternal...and have always risen on the horizon of darkness (racialism, religious fundamentalism and barriers between human etc) to spread the GLORY into human hearts...which gives birth to the ETERNAL colors of Love.

..... these were just 3 examples... there are other.....but then this post will become a book ...

Quoting: szarlotka
25 years of marriage in 10 days time. I love her more now than ever

True my friend.
Love always carries its unique beauty in every season of its existance. Be is youth, all the ages that comes between....or that old fluffy age ...

LoneStranger ...

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Arien
  Apr 7, 07, 08:43  #73

Quoting: pingwin
You are an angel in disguise.


I'm just a boy.

Quoting: LoneStranger
This, in my view, cannot be love - but it is just a form of Lust.


Have you ever experienced your heart going faster when she was near you without you knowing or seeing that she was? To turn around and to see her? Have you ever dreamed about her while being seperated, only to wake up while you could swear you felt her lips touching yours for a brief moment? Have you ever met someone, you could look in the eyes, and understand without using a word? Finish eachother's sentences? Have you ever been with someone you would sacrifice yourself for? Have you ever cried for three days straight when you lost someone?

If you have, then you would know that's not just lust.. that's the best description I can give you from what true love means in my books. I do agree with you that love has many faces, but lust and making love really aren't the most important things when you truly care about the person that you're with.

Or maybe I'm just weird?


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dziwna_gruszka
  Apr 7, 07, 10:40  #74

Love has never come my way therefored i dont' believe in it anymore!!!


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away guy
  Apr 7, 07, 10:44  #75

unlucky u hehehe

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FISZ
  Apr 7, 07, 10:51  #76

Quoting: dziwna_gruszka
Love has never come my way therefored i dont' believe in it anymore!!!

How can you not believe in sth you havent yet experienced. It can take years to find love....10-20-30 patience


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espana
  Apr 7, 07, 11:06  #77

Quoting: FISZ
FISZ

give to her your telephone and them nobody have to wait


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away guy
  Apr 7, 07, 11:07  #78

no more lov ein Poland i stole it all

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FISZ
  Apr 7, 07, 11:28  #79

Quoting: espana
give to her your telephone and them nobody have to wait

already taken


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audrey
  Apr 7, 07, 11:39  #80

Quoting: Arien
Have you ever been with someone you would sacrifice yourself for? Have you ever cried for three days straight when you lost someone?


yes and yes

Quoting: Arien
Or maybe I'm just weird

and no yuor not. you were deeply in love there should be more men in the world just like you


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valmoe1
  Apr 7, 07, 11:45  #81

I haven't read most of this thread but after moving to Poland I find love here is much stronger than in the US. Men seem to be more caring than I have EVER seen! Everyone is love 24/7 everywhere! It was scary at first and made me ill to see all the love and kissing and googoogaagaa, but now it's a little refreshing to see.

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pingwin
  Apr 7, 07, 11:49  #82

Quoting: Arien
Or maybe I'm just weird?



No, you are an angel!


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LoneStranger
  Apr 7, 07, 12:49  #83

Quoting: Arien
Have you ever dreamed about her while being seperated

not been seperated... thankfully

Quoting: Arien
Have you ever been with someone you would sacrifice yourself for?

Yep... still can

Quoting: Arien
Have you ever cried for three days straight when you lost someone?

Never did...never lost.... but just three days my friend!?

Emotion is good... but the truest of all emotions comes out of a true bond. Crying doesnt reflect the deepest of pains.
Your words...were very lovely...but these are emotions that even a child might has when his favourite toy is broken. Is this impossible?

Seperation is painful. Anyone can seperate... true love couple can also seperate....but the picture of this seperation is different than the picture of the seperation of the couple of desire and attraction.

The seperation of two true lovers is always momentary.....just like the water of the sea...which falls as rain....only to embrace the sea again....they will surely meet again...and always stay each others....not to no one else.

While the seperation of two people who are deeply attracted to each other is like the wind....it hits the tree forcefully....the three dances and bows for some period of time...just for some time.



However I do not know about your love, or anyones story here ... I can never say. Please dont get upset with my post people ... You are all my friends ... and this is just a healthy discussion ...

Good Luck

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pingwin
  Apr 7, 07, 13:27  #84

There is a poem I found awhile ago and it comforted me when I thought of my Angel. I hope admin won't delete it, because it reminds me of my true love and how much I miss him.


I'LL REMEMBER YOU, LOVE, IN MY PRAYERS


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Arien
  Apr 7, 07, 14:48  #85

Quoting: LoneStranger
but just three days my friend!?


It took me much longer, but I just remember those first three days being the worst days of my life.

Quoting: LoneStranger
The seperation of two true lovers is always momentary


I still dream about her from time to time, and still wake up with a smile when that happens. It's been a while now. No, you really shouldn't compare her to a toy some child cries about. You're right you don't know, but I don't really mind your honest thoughts and vieuws so that's okay.

Quoting: dziwna_gruszka
Love has never come my way therefored i dont' believe in it anymore!!!


Hey, you're young Dziwna, and you're not bad at all, really you'll bump into your own perfect prince someday.


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Arien
  Apr 7, 07, 15:01  #86

I've also read your poem Pingwin, and I thought it was beautiful. Thank you too Audrey.

You're all making me shy now.


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Szkola
  Apr 7, 07, 15:25  #87

Quoting: dziwna_gruszka
Love has never come my way therefored i dont' believe in it anymore!!!

Do you still love yourself? If so then you still believe in it!!!


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RazZ
  Apr 8, 07, 05:40  #88

Quoting: LoneStranger
Please accept my apologies if any of my comments have made you feel uncomfortable in any way


you dont need to Apologize for anything mate.

The child’s love for his/her parents and visa versa, or God’s love humans and visa versa, these loves are eternal and true. A mother loves her child thousand times more then anyone on the planet. Then think how much God love his humans. He (God) loves us (humans) more then a mother’s love for her child.

Don’t mistake the above love with the love for the person you are attracted, that a different love, (some of you won’t agree to this)

While there's no clear, fool-proof way to decipher your feelings for someone, there are certain ways to make the distinction between love, lust and infatuation.

Lasting relationships are those that are built on love - not infatuation or lust. Imagine the person you love in 50 years when they are old and fat. Would that change how you feel about them? If yes, then what you feel now is most likely lust/infatuation - not love.


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