Zbigniew Brzezinski, Great Polish Intellectual & Strategist

Zbigniew Brzezinski, son of a Polish-Canadian diplomat, employee of the Rockefeller family and all-around 'global thinker', can actually be considered the founder of what is called 'Al-Qaida'...check out this website for a good deal of info, and offer your opinion & feedback...

http://www.takeoverworld.info/brzezinski_quotes.html

Some here seem to treat Brzeziński almost like a God becae he is Polish. I don't agree with this but the whole thing that he created Al-Q is crap. Using Islamists to fight Soviets was a very good idea. Also I heard that often posted foto of him and some guy, who is said to be young bin Laden is fake.

BTW link doesn't work.

Grzegorz_ wrote:

BTW link doesn't work

I just clicked on it and it works fine...when I first posted the topic, the moderators tried to delete it...maybe something funny at work here!

BTW

Using Islamists to fight Soviets was a very good idea

For who?

Yes, It works now.



For everyone, who didn't like Soviets.

Also what many people don't get is that Mujahadeens, who were supported by America to fight Soviets in 80's were something completely different than Talibs. The leader of anti-Soviet forces was killed in suicide attack by Talibs just a day before 9/11.

Bankcrupted the USSR so no arguments there.

The vast majority of former Mujahadeen were in the so called Northern alliance,the Talib are predominantly Pashtu from the south and Pakistan.
Anyhow,to say that the creation of one force is to blame for its mutations is as ridiculas as saying George washington was responsible for the My lai massacre.

USSR bankrupted due to the madness to try to compete with Reagan's star wars programm in equal expenses.

So the CA fought for free,with sticks and rocks did they? Granted,it was all part of a package but it played a vital part in crushing the morale of Soviet forces,much as the US didnt do much sword rattling for a few years post 1973.

USSR bankrupted because whole their system was sick from the economic point of view.

CA?What is it?



Soviet army remained powerful.Soviet Union was sold from the inside,it did not collapse militarilly.

Sorry,CA =Soviet Army as opposed to PKKA....

Yes, yes, but what is your opinion of the morality of this 'great' Polish brother, who condoned mass murder as a tool of 'global diplomacy', called for an electronic surveillance society as a tool of 'democracy' and worked for one of the greatest gangster
families of the 20th Century?...could you have a nice vodka & pivo with this Polack?..you see, I sometimes give the Jews hell, but fair is fair!

They used a lot of helicopters in Afghanistan.Actually the capture of Kabul by air-transfered divisions was an achievement that proved a lot of potential in the red army in operations very few thought it was able to conduct.

LOL ;)


yes it was great idea, what is more successful

Even our current minister Sikorski have been to Afghanistan in 80s Officialy as reporter, but the fact is that he had his AK-47 and he was halping Afganistan people in their fight against Soviets.
one of his photos form Afganistan


yes yes Sikorski our Polish Rambo in Afganistan

At least he claims so....

Gen. Ahmed Shah Masood

using the mujahadeens seemed like a good idea but obviously it didn't work out all too well in the end. this is exactly what happens when you only have short sight. now we're paying for that mistake.

OMG we created AIDS (sic!) and Al-Qaida (toghether with USA) :P I dont know if it is positive contribution in world history ;)))


and again you have made mistake, Brzezinski is right guy ;) just watch it.

Had to laugh at this! Is this the right picture? It looks like 3 of those street performers who paint themselves in silver and stand very still.

Hit and miss with this man – though, for honest devotion and prosperity for a Nation this man is one to be heard – though, don’t expect the actions to be morally alluring.

This (URL) reads like a screenplay for 9/11 and the invasion if Iraq. Of course it was written before both events actually took place.

z_darius wrote:

This (URL) reads like a screenplay for 9/11 and the invasion if Iraq. Of course it was written before both events actually took place.

That's because both events were planned for a long time...'The Grand Chessboard' book shows you how these elitist technocrats & intellectuals think: they see human beings as 'pieces' to be moved around and/or disposed of, when they are no longer useful...Brzezinski & Kissinger are two peas in a pod, both bloodless puppets & robots who do the bidding of their banker/gangster masters.

Russians lost in Afghanistan 15 031 - 30 000 solders. Afghans were supported by CIA and many Poles helped them and to be more precise provoked this conflict between SU and Afghans. Now we are fighting against them (organistaions CIA has created).

Form Polish point of view it is good business. USSR colapsed ealier.

- C'mon, Joe, why would you call him Polish? In reality, he's much more American, and indeed cosmopolitan, than Polish.

Puzzler wrote:

- C'mon, Joe, why would you call him Polish? In reality, he's much more American, and indeed cosmopolitan, than Polish.

You make a good point...he is a 'cosmopolitan'...I simply posted the thread to get some
discussion, because Bzezinski is of Polish descent.